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US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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post #166

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Can you enumerate some examples of when it having less information is better than having more?

For the company it doesnt work well, you’re leaking too much info to competitors

If everyone is legally required to share it then we're all in the same boat.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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But on what time scale? Before a few connected entities make a profit or after?

If you're not trading overnight and there's a flash crash that corrects itself overnight... it's the people who are trading overnight taking money from each other.

Most Americans who invest money don't trade at all. They pay some guy at a bank to do it, and the guy at the bank is exactly the kind of guy who is trading at 3am.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#233

One of my favorite stories about logistics and quarterly earnings deadlines (from when I worked at a pharmaceutical company: "In our business, a truckload of various drugs can easily reach $10-$15 million. Now, if that truck arrives at the depot at 11:59pm March 31st then it's first quarter earnings. If it arrives at 12:01am April 1st then it's second quarter earnings. $15 million is a BIG shortfall, even for us, so…

That doesn't make any sense because the revenue is already booked for the sale which has nothing to do with when the delivery truck actually arrives.

If it is cash based accounting, revenue and expenses are booked when the money changes hands.

If it is accrual-based acocunting, it takes place when the event legal triggering the change of ownership of goods in the transaction takes place, which depends on the shipping terms, which could be anywhere from when it is available for the buyer’s transport agent to pick up at the seller’s facility (EXW) to when it is delivered, unloaded, and at the buyers door (DDP) or any of a variety of places in between (FOB Origin, FOB Destination, and a bunch of other potential shipping terms with their own rules on when ownership—and responsibility—transfer from seller to buyer.)

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#234

Simultaneously they are opening up 0DTE options on certain stocks starting with large market caps but don't be surprised when this expands. Currently this was limited to large etfs like SPX. They are also extending trading hours towards 24/7 and eventually 365. How they square increasing liquidity with delaying information is insane. I know there is a lot of manipulation to make quarterly numbers and the tax code is…

SPY is an ETF and SPX is an index. The distinction is material.

/ES does not trade between 5pm and 6pm ET. SPX options aren't marked until 8:15 PM ET.

It's more plausible that large caps see MWF, then MTWHF possibly.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Simultaneously they are opening up 0DTE options on certain stocks starting with large market caps but don't be surprised when this expands. Currently this was limited to large etfs like SPX. They are also extending trading hours towards 24/7 and eventually 365. How they square increasing liquidity with delaying information is insane. I know there is a lot of manipulation to make quarterly numbers and the tax code is…

Can you enumerate some examples of when it having less information is better than having more?

There are multiples examples that are easy to see once you realise presenting information has a cost.

For example having daily morning 2 hour long stand ups provide more information for everyone involved. It's also worse for productivity and work atmosphere.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Well we’d go back to an era where private capital owns the world. The public would not be able to participate or benefit from the ownership of companies and share in the prosperity.

Yes, hard to imagine this crazy timeline where private capital rules the world. Totally inconceivable.

"It's not good so let's make it worse"

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#237
post #214

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Maybe even just a single auction in the afternoon.

I saw this as a serious proposal somewhere but I can't remember where. There are exchanges out there that run continuously but with delayed information feeds.

It feels like something Matt Levine would have talked about.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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24/7 trading sounds like a nightmare. “Your retirement savings crashed 30% because there wasn’t enough liquidity to cover a 3am panic over non-news”.

The beauty of it, though, is that it would recover almost immediately as systems arbitrage an obviously stupid situation.

No, they stop hunt their way to depressed prices where they then buy anticipating the recovery while you closed out your “safe” retirement positions at -15%.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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post #187

It seems like people in power in the US are competing to make as much damage as possible to systems that brought them so much wealth.

They are the winners. They want to stay the winners. So they are incentivized make sure that nobody else can climb up to challenge them.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#240

24/7 trading sounds like a nightmare. “Your retirement savings crashed 30% because there wasn’t enough liquidity to cover a 3am panic over non-news”.

There's already a huge futures market Liquidity will just migrate.
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