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Bill C-22, the Lawful Access Act: Dangerous backdoor surveillance risks remain

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We're in a very low trust and illiberal era. Everyone is convinced that the other side is evil and cannot be trusted, and they are building to laws and infrastructure to contain the perceived threat. And no one imagines that infrastructure will be used against them.

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Regarding warrantless searches and access ... reading the text of the bill (OP link) warrants seem to be required. Simple, right? Well, no, this is a recently inserted block of text in the bill (confirm at the link above): Exception (2. 7)(b) However, a copy of the warrant is not required to be given to a person under subsection (2. 6) if the judge or justice who issues the warrant sets aside the requirement in respe…

Is Canada (greatly) defunct? Many canucks around the world that I met seem to be of this opinion, but I've never been there and only know Canadians as hard workers.

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It feels like many democratic leaders are starting to think the CCP model—mass surveillance of citizens—is the right direction, with growing demands for chat control, facial verification, age verification, and more. Fxxk any politician who thinks they are above the citizens in a democracy.

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post #142

It feels like many democratic leaders are starting to think the CCP model—mass surveillance of citizens—is the right direction, with growing demands for chat control, facial verification, age verification, and more. Fxxk any politician who thinks they are above the citizens in a democracy.

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post #142

It feels like many democratic leaders are starting to think the CCP model—mass surveillance of citizens—is the right direction, with growing demands for chat control, facial verification, age verification, and more. Fxxk any politician who thinks they are above the citizens in a democracy.

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It's the opposite: people are getting exactly what they voted for, they just didn't realize they’re voting for it, because of mass propaganda.

Re: Bill C-22, the Lawful Access Act: Dangerous backdoor surveillance risks remain

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Regarding warrantless searches and access ... reading the text of the bill (OP link) warrants seem to be required. Simple, right? Well, no, this is a recently inserted block of text in the bill (confirm at the link above): Exception (2. 7)(b) However, a copy of the warrant is not required to be given to a person under subsection (2. 6) if the judge or justice who issues the warrant sets aside the requirement in respe…

Is Canada (greatly) defunct? Many canucks around the world that I met seem to be of this opinion, but I've never been there and only know Canadians as hard workers.

I imagine you met the people who got tired of all the slobs.

Look at the recent report on CRA service inquiries and their accuracy. An amazing 17%. It's not hard work that got us there.

edit: Just one of many examples. People rarely even hold doors anymore, we're a far way from our prime.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not Canadian, but it seems similarly written to how laws in the US have been exploited to be used to spy on Americans. And despite not being Canadian, as an American I have a horse in this race, as the OP notes... | many of these rules appear geared toward global information sharing I see a lot of people arguing that these bounds are reasonable so I want to make an argument from a different perspective: Investiga…

> A lot of us strongly push against these types of measures not because we have anything to hide nor because we are on the side of the criminals. I had this view as well until I realized it’s predicated on living in a high trust society. At some point you reach a critical mass of crime that is so rampant, and the rule of law has so broken down that it’s basically Mad Max out there, and then these idealistic philosoph…

The Mad Max stuff is occurring at scale more due to unchecked governments, and governments that don't work for society than it is from insufficient surveillance

Re: Bill C-22, the Lawful Access Act: Dangerous backdoor surveillance risks remain

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post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Canada (greatly) defunct? Many canucks around the world that I met seem to be of this opinion, but I've never been there and only know Canadians as hard workers.

I imagine you met the people who got tired of all the slobs. Look at the recent report on CRA service inquiries and their accuracy. An amazing 17%. It's not hard work that got us there. edit: Just one of many examples. People rarely even hold doors anymore, we're a far way from our prime.

Next you're going to tell me that Canadians have stopped bothering to apologize!

Re: Bill C-22, the Lawful Access Act: Dangerous backdoor surveillance risks remain

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If you're upset about this bill: - Call your MP (find yours at ourcommons.ca). - Back organisations that fight back (OpenMedia and CCLA have killed surveillance bills in the past - Submit written opposition. The Cannabis Act angle is interesting.. extends full computer search-and-seizure powers to cannabis enforcement.

Just don't back those organizations too publicly or too loudly if you don't want your bank account summarily frozen

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> it’s quite misleading (to readers who don’t follow UK politics) to suggest that there’s any hope of it winning an election. I wish. Brexit was pretty unthinkable even just a few years before the referendum. And now… well, toss-up between the top 5(!) parties, because somehow the Greens and Lib Dems are polling at similar levels to Conservative and Labour, all a bit behind Reform who didn't exist a few years back. A…

You can’t seriously be suggesting that a political party that most Brits haven’t even heard of has any chance of winning the next election.

"an election" (what you wrote first time) != "the next election" (what you write now).

Next-but-one, perhaps. Although even for the next one, everyone's so weak I'd only put mild odds against them.

I don't want them to win ever*, but failing to plan is planning to fail, and there's big money getting involved here, and the UK political system still hasn't caught up with the impact of social networks and foreign influence through them at all.

And one of those social networks is run by someone who sees no problem calling for civil war in the UK, though he's currently supporting one of the other "I wish it was a joke party" parties.

* Although I can also say that about Reform, where, if I still lived in the UK, if my options were them or the actual literal Monster Raving Loony Party, I'd pick the latter. Then again, that doesn't say much as I'd pick the Monster Raving Loony Party over the Conservatives, too.

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