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Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by kelvinjps10 »

socalgal2 wrote: post #196
asib wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developed rich countries are hurting. See the wildfires across North America, massive amounts of flooding across Europe, etc. Nothing will change until many of the global electorate stop burying their heads in the sand. These people don't change their minds until things affect them specifically. Then they change their mind, and all their former fellows tell them they're brainwashed. This doesn't change until nearly e…

What have you done? Why is it someone else’s problem?

How does he has the power to change it?

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by queenkjuul »

jpadkins wrote: post #179
lambdaone wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazing hyperbole, and a deflection from the real issues. You can fight against wrongdoing without actually advocating people being killed. Right now, climate change is an undeniable fact, its causes well-known, and the evidence for it now part of everyday life. If anything, its effects have been underestimated to date, and 'non-believers' in it are either fools or acting based on morally repugnant principles.

hostis humani generis is latin for "enemies of mankind". It is not hyperbole, it is not deflection. The GP is advocating that everyone is compelled to attack or persecute anyone who is "fighting against stopping or reducing global warming".

They didn't say "kill," you did

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by Findecanor »

tsoukase wrote: post #164

This ship has sailed, warming is irreversible. Developing nations mainly in Asia (China, India etc) are, well, developing and burn like there is no tomorrow. But they are not to blame. It is their turn to live nicely, like the US and Europe did for decades. Nobody can remove this right from them.

We can still limit the amount of the global warming. It does not run by itself, but it could start doing so.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by miclill »

luxuryballs wrote: post #137
afandian wrote: post #2

This is open access. No need to post a researchgate link. Here's the original: https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-6079807/v1

I’m out of the loop on researchgate, when you say “No need” is it like an archive.is? Why is it less desirable or, if I’m reading your tone correctly, a “backup option”?

As far as I understand this is a pre-print under CC-BY license, if this answers your question?

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by marcyb5st »

energy123 wrote: post #192
jokoon wrote: post #147

Nothing will change until developed rich countries are starting to hurt. And I don't think it's going to hurt enough in 10 or 20 years. The pain will come slowly, people won't see it. It's like going back to the middle age so slowly, that the population don't realize or feel it. And honestly, wars and trump are making climate concerns so difficult to think about.

The initial pain will be diffuse and not obviously caused by global warming. For example, destabilization of equatorial countries due to wet bulb temperatures, through multiple causal paths: worse education outcomes (many days off school during hot months), worse economy (can't work outside), worse life satisfaction -> more autocracies, more water scarcity. Then you get more emigration to the colder north, more confl…

I am not sure how not directly linked to global warming. I am currently on the phone but I remember a study that mentioned that Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh would see a deadly heat (wet bulb temperatures) from basically 0 as it is right now to 30 days/year by 2050 or 2060. I can't remember right now.

If that is not linkable to global warming I am not sure what is. And that is a huge event. In Europe we are struggling with accomodating perhaps 10M people. What happens when 1.5B come knocking because if they stay they die?

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by deadbabe »

jokoon wrote: post #147

Nothing will change until developed rich countries are starting to hurt. And I don't think it's going to hurt enough in 10 or 20 years. The pain will come slowly, people won't see it. It's like going back to the middle age so slowly, that the population don't realize or feel it. And honestly, wars and trump are making climate concerns so difficult to think about.

> Nothing will change.

Fixed

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by jmcgough »

jokoon wrote: post #147

Nothing will change until developed rich countries are starting to hurt. And I don't think it's going to hurt enough in 10 or 20 years. The pain will come slowly, people won't see it. It's like going back to the middle age so slowly, that the population don't realize or feel it. And honestly, wars and trump are making climate concerns so difficult to think about.

Soon, we'll have millions of climate change refugees, battles over resources, regular once-in-a-century storms, more wars. We're close to the point where we'll be too busy thrashing to address the root cause.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #214

If it is too late to do anything, why should we care? We can’t reverse it, so why should we care about slow down?

This is like punching a hole in your wall and saying 'there's already a hole, why shouldn't I just demolish my entire house'

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by mrintegrity »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #228
abound wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been mentally tabulating a list of reasons rich (and/or older) people should care about climate change, even if you're only looking out for your own interests: - Your children and younger family members will have to deal with this - Climate change is causing increasingly worse turbulence for airplanes - It will disproportionately affect your favorite vacation spots - Probably something about stock markets and pe…

Climate change is not the main cause for turbulence.

As you are probably aware, the op didn't say that it was
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