Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon

Post by stinkbeetle » Wed, Mar 04, 2026, 5:12 AM UTC

mikelitoris wrote: post #221

More Intel vaporware. Seriously, their other 18A product, panther lake, supposedly "launched" January 18th. It's been 1.5 months and I still can't go and buy any panther lake laptop except from dell.com. Why are they like this? I'll believe it when I see it. Also about "make-or-break": they've been saying this for all of Intel's products since at least 2022 *yawn*

Post by stinkbeetle » Wed, Mar 04, 2026, 5:13 AM UTC

user5994461 wrote: post #40

urthor wrote: post #24

So TLDR is it competitive? What are the dimensions and dynamics here vs EPYC?

Not competitive at all. It's easily visible on the laptop lines, where the same GPU manufactured on TSMC has 3 times the power/performance ratio compared to the Intel one. Putting more cores is just another desperate move to play the benchmark. Power is roughly quadratic with frequency, every time you fall behind competition, you can double the number of cores and reduce the frequency by 1.414 to compensate. Repeat a…

Post by fnord77 » Wed, Mar 04, 2026, 5:27 AM UTC

stego-tech wrote: post #8

These sorts of core-density increases are how I win cloud debates in an org. * Identify the workloads that haven't scaled in a year. Your ERPs, your HRIS, your dev/stage/test environments, DBs, Microsoft estate, core infrastructure, etc. (EDIT, from zbentley: also identify any cross-system processing where data will transfer from the cloud back to your private estate to be excluded, so you don't get murdered with egr…

Post by esseph » Wed, Mar 04, 2026, 5:49 AM UTC

vel0city wrote: post #224

tempaccount5050 wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you think just anyone can set that up? No sys admin/infra guy needed? Seems pretty risky.

I mean not just anyone , but its far less complicated than dealing with arcane iptables commands. And yet far more powerful, being able to just say "instances like this can talk to instances like this in these particular ways, reject everything else". Don't need subnet rules or whatever, its all about identity of the actual things. Meanwhile lots of enterprise firewalls barely even have a concept of "zones". Its prac…

Post by briffle » Wed, Mar 04, 2026, 6:08 AM UTC

carefree-bob wrote: post #58

stego-tech wrote: post #8

These sorts of core-density increases are how I win cloud debates in an org. * Identify the workloads that haven't scaled in a year. Your ERPs, your HRIS, your dev/stage/test environments, DBs, Microsoft estate, core infrastructure, etc. (EDIT, from zbentley: also identify any cross-system processing where data will transfer from the cloud back to your private estate to be excluded, so you don't get murdered with egr…

The main cost with on-prem is not the price of the gear but the price of acquiring talent to manage the gear. Most companies simply don't have the skillset internally to properly manage these servers, or even the internal talent to know whether they are hiring a good infrastructure engineer or not during the interview process. For those that do, your scaling example works against you. If today you can merge three ser…