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I don’t like any search engines now :(
It's because the search engine is being eaten by the LLM. I'm not suggesting that it's a perfect substitute. It's just what I feel is happening.
Naw this is a pre LLM problem.
I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
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Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#232Google should just make their algorithms open source so at least scammers don't have the edge over legitimate project; which is the current reality.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#233A couple years back John Reilly posted on HN "How I ruined my SEO" and I helped him fix it for free. He wrote about the whole thing here: https://johnnyreilly.com/how-we-fixed-my-seo Happy to do the same for you if you want. The quickest win in your case: map all the backlinks the .net site got (happy to pull this for you), then email every publication that linked to it. "Hey, you covered NanoClaw but linked to a fak…
All this work to solve one website's problem... You can be sure MANY other open source projects are facing the same issue. It's just not a viable solution. There is something wrong with Google. Google has to fix it.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's because the search engine is being eaten by the LLM. I'm not suggesting that it's a perfect substitute. It's just what I feel is happening.
Naw this is a pre LLM problem.
Yep. SEO spam has been a thing for decades.
LLMs have supercharged it though, it's so much easier to create dozens or hundreds or thousands of ultra low effort LLM written webpages and websites that it ever was before LLMs.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#235I pay for Kagi to get better search results. Lately, I’ve felt that Kagi’s search has been just as full of low-information and AI generated results as Google. I’ve been wondering why I’m still paying for it. This seemed like a good litmus test. Unfortunately, Kagi displays pretty much the same results as Google for nanoclaw.
I hadn't really noticed anything like this until you pointed it out. My main use for Kagi is to pin Wikipedia results... I just tried searching for "nanoclaw" on Kagi (I'm in the UK so results biased towards there) and got: 1. nanoclaw[dot]net (!) 2. github.com/qwibitai/nanoclaw which looks like a ripoff? 3. Three videos, at least one of which looks like slop with crypto ads 4. github.com/gavrielc/nanoclaw which I pr…
> 2. github.com/qwibitai/nanoclaw which looks like a ripoff?
That is literally the GitHub repo the original article shows as being "real".
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
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He's a terrible communicator, and sort of repellent in person. Contrast someone like Cory Doctorow who manages to be right about stuff and actually communicate effectively.
I don't really share that point. If the message is correct, why would the other things matter? Due to "social norms"? It is a similar problem with Code of Conducts. In general I don't care about CoCs. That does not mean I act in the opposite manner either - I just don't feel the need for CoCs.
because brilliant jerk is not acceptable
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#237Google buried my popular open source project deep in its search results. It's a very niche technical field with niche keywords but it shows all the scams and paid services on the front page and my project is not even in the first 5 pages when I type exact keywords that are present in the page. It only shows my project when I type its exact name.
It feels like Google is actively discriminating against my project in its algorithms. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if there is some code in the google algorithm which is something like if (untrustedDomain(domain)) score -= x and they probably have some highly paid 'engineer' maintaining this blacklist. It definitely feels like this.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
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The article says "Filed takedown notices with Google, Cloudflare, and the domain registrar spaceship.com"
Since the clone site isn't doing anything obviously malicious like spreading malware or blatantly illegal content none of those parties will take any action whatsoever, nor should they.
*yet
Build the audience first, attack comes later
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
#239Google buried my popular open source project deep in its search results. It's a very niche technical field with niche keywords but it shows all the scams and paid services on the front page and my project is not even in the first 5 pages when I type exact keywords that are present in the page. It only shows my project when I type its exact name. It feels like Google is actively discriminating against my project in it…
Theory is that Google pushes up pages which have spent on Google Ads.
Re: I'm losing the SEO battle for my own open source project
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How does missing the point and going on an unrelated rant help ensure we live in a vibrant society? Because I’m missing that part.
His comment implies that people who use free services don't value them, they are naturally disrespectful, they are 'ripping off' hard workers, and are 'refusing to pay'. These are not neutral terms, they have historically (since Reagan at least) conservative valence. 'welfare queens' etc... If you didn't notice this sleight of hand in the original comment, that means he did his work correctly. His conclusion is that…
$300 in groceries is worth the same whether it was paid for with cash or food stamps. But that doesn't mean the $300 in food stamps is worth $300 cash.