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Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by chneu »

Mordisquitos wrote: post #177
IX-103 wrote: post #152

So we replace an OS owned by a search engine (Google) with an OS owned by a search engine (Murena)? You're going to need to give me more details than that before I consider switching.

I'm an /e/OS user with a Murena account and I had never even heard of Murena being "a search engine". After searching (on DDG), I see that they in June 2025 they launched a collaboration with the Qwant search engine to launch a Murena-branded version: https://murena.com/discover-murena-find-your-new-privacy-fir... That does not make it "an OS owned by a search engine".

Also, Qwant ain't bad. I've been using it for about a year.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by mmooss »

Tharre wrote: post #173
goldenarm wrote: post #9

Tweaking user-hostile OSes into user-friendly ones is impressive, but not sustainable. Even worse, it slowing us down from leaving Android entirely. Look at the AdBlocker crackdown of Google Chrome. Every single chrome-fork has shut down MV2 extensions, even Brave is about to do it, because it is impossible to maintain features that complex on a browser that Google spends >$1B/year to develop. Same story for /e/ and…

> Tweaking user-hostile OSes into user-friendly ones is impressive, but not sustainable. Even worse, it slowing us down from leaving Android entirely. Not sustainable as opposed to what, exactly? Developing and maintaining a completely different mobile operating system? Focusing on truly open platforms sound nice in theory, but completely falls apart the moment you consider what people want to do with their phones co…

> Not sustainable as opposed to what, exactly? Developing and maintaining a completely different mobile operating system? Focusing on truly open platforms sound nice in theory, but completely falls apart the moment you consider what people want to do with their phones compared to the developing resources available.

Multiple open source desktop/laptop operating systems are maintained.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by moebrowne »

odeckmyn wrote: post #141

I wanted to add a perspective from actual daily use, because a lot of this thread sounds theoretical. I’ve been using a Murena/Fairphone running /e/OS as my primary phone for a while now, and honestly the experience has been much smoother than I expected. My banking apps work, GPS/navigation works reliably, messaging and everyday apps behave normally — I’m not constantly fighting the device or giving things up. After…

I too have used Fairphone + /e/OS for years and have had literally zero issues with it.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by em-bee »

amelius wrote: post #190
em-bee wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it was supposed to be a temporary name, that i believe was intentionally chosen to be bad to make it easier to replace later. they were under pressure because the original name eelo had a trademark issue. when they eventually found a new name "murena" it appears they then decided to use it as a brand for the phones that they themselves sell instead, keeping /e/OS as the name for the operating system

What is their connection with eels? I just checked and Murena is an eel, too. Imho, one of the ugliest fish one could choose as a mascotte :S

heh, i never made the connection. it's spelled muraena but that's as close as eelo is to eel.

curiously i always thought morays look cute.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by ralferoo »

microtonal wrote: post #108
ralferoo wrote: post #68

Honestly, I don't quite understand this. I get the appeal of degoogling, but this seems to just be replacing that with alternatives run by another commercial company, just one I've never heard of before. Why does it even need "One account for your privacy" ... "Operated by Murena, your Murena Workspace account @murena.io is at the centre of the ecosystem" when it'd be even better to have everything on-device without…

Even more, Murena seems to be owned by Qwant Source? (would be interesting if it was)

I think I was wrong. Googling suggest that Qwant is owned by Octave Klaba, the founder and majority owner of OVH. Murena seems to be owned by Gaël Duval.

It's just from their website a lot of mentions of Murena seemed to say powered by Qwant, or similar, and so it looked like they were closely linked.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by Contortion »

em-bee wrote: post #178
theK wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My account has more comments than that and I share OC's opinion and experience. I've been daily driving /e/ since its FP3 era and lately the experience has been really well polished. Even things that had been "tricky" in the past, like Android auto integration, now work seamlessly.

same here, except for banking apps. the one i am supposed to use now doesn't work.

I had this problem and it turned out to be an upstream issue with MicroG which was eventually patched. If you have an error message you can search for existing issues on /e/OS' gitlab/forum.

Revolut stopped working for me for a while with the error that the bootloader wasn't recognised and rooted phones aren't supported. After about a month an OS update solved it.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by Taek »

Tharre wrote: post #173
goldenarm wrote: post #9

Tweaking user-hostile OSes into user-friendly ones is impressive, but not sustainable. Even worse, it slowing us down from leaving Android entirely. Look at the AdBlocker crackdown of Google Chrome. Every single chrome-fork has shut down MV2 extensions, even Brave is about to do it, because it is impossible to maintain features that complex on a browser that Google spends >$1B/year to develop. Same story for /e/ and…

> Tweaking user-hostile OSes into user-friendly ones is impressive, but not sustainable. Even worse, it slowing us down from leaving Android entirely. Not sustainable as opposed to what, exactly? Developing and maintaining a completely different mobile operating system? Focusing on truly open platforms sound nice in theory, but completely falls apart the moment you consider what people want to do with their phones co…

> Developing and maintaining a completely different mobile operating system?

The cost of writing code has fallen 100x in the past 3 years, and will likely fall 100x further. So actually, yes, thanks to AI it probably actually is reasonable to launch a fully new stack from scratch.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by ForHackernews »

spudlyo wrote: post #167
odeckmyn wrote: post #141

I wanted to add a perspective from actual daily use, because a lot of this thread sounds theoretical. I’ve been using a Murena/Fairphone running /e/OS as my primary phone for a while now, and honestly the experience has been much smoother than I expected. My banking apps work, GPS/navigation works reliably, messaging and everyday apps behave normally — I’m not constantly fighting the device or giving things up. After…

This account has three comments on HN, all of them essentially the same type of /e/OS advocacy pablum. "I wanted to add a perspective from an LLM sockpuppet, because I know you're all not deeply cynical and mistrustful yet."

I have used /e/OS for years and it's been good. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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