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Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by LoganDark » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 6:32 AM UTC

gwerbin wrote: post #199

LoganDark wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of voters didn't know what they were getting the country into, or just were too ignorant or misinformed to notice, in voting for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party. There are actual fascists too, of course. I'm just disappointed that they won; the damage has already been immeasurable, and to some extent irreversible, and we're not even halfway into the term.

This is too naive. A lot of voters were eager and happy to vote for hurting other people on the premise that it was somehow going to turn into personal benefit. They are only now upset because it turns out they're being hurt too. An dpeople have short memories when it comes to this stuff. If the USA somehow manages to survive this and Trump and his allies are peacefully voted out and removed from power, I'd bet $250…

> This is too naive. A lot of voters were eager and happy to vote for hurting other people on the premise that it was somehow going to turn into personal benefit. They are only now upset because it turns out they're being hurt too.

That is literally exactly what Leopards Eating People's Faces Party means.

> "'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party."

Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by fatata123 » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 6:37 AM UTC

Paddyz wrote: post #191

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Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by foxglacier » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 6:51 AM UTC

Can someone explain what the drama is? From what I can tell, OpenAI donated to Trump's campaign then won a contract with his government. Anthropic lost that contract because they had some morality redlines they refused to relax. Where exactly is the badness in there?

Is there evidence the donation cause them to win the contract? Seems like the evidence is that their competitor backed out, no?

I suspect this is a conspiracy theory feeding on people's pre-existing hatreds.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by braza » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 6:53 AM UTC

I cannot take Gary seriously anymore since it's an article about deep learning hitting a wall [1].

[1] - https://nautil.us/deep-learning-is-hitting-a-wall-238440/

Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by Gud » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 6:57 AM UTC

knollimar wrote: post #100

atmosx wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheap or not doesn’t matter. Sir Winston Churchill supposedly asked Lady Astor whether she would sleep with him for five million pounds. She said she supposed she would. Then he asked whether she would sleep with him for only five pounds. She answered,"What do you think I am?" His response was, "We've already established that; we're merely haggling over price."- Marcus Felson, Crime and Everyday Life, Second Edition,…

I think it does matter and this quote is always flaunted like it's some deep insight but it intentionally ignored nuance. An amount you can comfortably retire on is way different than $5. We love to pretend humans have unflinching morals but they don't

I believe the problem is making sex about morality.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by agentifysh » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 7:14 AM UTC

I just can't take Gary seriously anymore after reading this thread:

https://x.com/alfcnz/status/1991210361769320820

Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by Aeolun » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 7:18 AM UTC

drawnwren wrote: post #225

conception wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s corruption and a different deal.

OAI and USG have publicly stated deal is materially different. On what basis does anyone think the deal is the same?

Because Altman says the deal is the same.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by CamperBob2 » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 7:20 AM UTC

agentifysh wrote: post #236

I just can't take Gary seriously anymore after reading this thread: https://x.com/alfcnz/status/1991210361769320820

LOL. "I often remind clowns (his word) of my PhD from MIT when I was 23, my tenure at NYU 30 (sic), my six books, publications in Science and Nature, or the machine learning company that I founded and sold to Uber. Sometimes I mention my Senate testimony."

He should get together with Musk and commiserate about how worldly success is no substitute for adoration on Twitter.

That said, I doubt he's wrong about the nature of this debacle. A thousand years from now, the ghosts of Altman and Amodei are still going to wander the earth in search of ways to dunk on each other.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by Aeolun » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 7:20 AM UTC

mentalgear wrote: post #3

PS: If openly bribing a crony gov to cancel your competitor is now the de-facto standard of making business in the US, I don't see how any rational investor could still see US companies as a secure investment. When the rule of law degrades into pay-to-play politics, the inevitable result is a mass exodus of both capital and top-tier talent.

> I don't see how any rational investor could still see US companies as a secure investment

I the problem is that from the companies’s side you just have a whole country to exploit, so I’m fairly certain the investments still work.

Re: The whole thing was a scam

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Post by d--b » Sun, Mar 01, 2026, 7:23 AM UTC

> In capitalism, the market decides.

> In oligarchy, connections and donations decide.

> It sure look like the US is transitioning from the former to the latter.

The US probably always was like that. Now they just don’t bother hiding it.