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Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by abustamam »

rafark wrote: post #85
segmondy wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your last statement is false. A shady merchant never gets to keep the stolen money. The card issuer/bank refunds you immediately because of consumer protection laws. But that charge is immediately charged to the processor. The processor then gets the merchant involved in a dispute process. If the merchant loses the processor charges the merchant. One way they do it is to immediately deduct it from their current proce…

> Your last statement is false. A shady merchant never gets to keep the stolen money. Or any merchant for that matter. Chargebacks (from bad actors) are one of the most annoying things when you sell online when you’re a honest legit business. Stripe even charges you a penalty fee on top of that.

This makes me feel good. My gym was one of those places that lured you in with a low monthly price then heavily upsell you on personal trainers. The trainers were fine, but they were fairly inexperienced (usually college kids who took a course and then wanted a summer job or something). And once they found something better they'd leave. Nothing against the trainers, but I prefer to have consistency with my coaches.

Anyway, when I canceled my membership, I realized a few months later they were still charging me for training sessions. I chatted with the manager and apparently I had to cancel those separately. They refused to refund me for the sessions I never took. But they had a kind offer of being able to get training without paying for membership.

Well, I wasn't buying it, so I went on Chase and initiated chargebacks for every session charged after I canceled.

I dunno what happened on their end, but I got my money back. The business is still around, so I guess I didn't hurt them that much, but it's good to know that I probably was at least a hindrance.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by abustamam »

maxbond wrote: post #198

I've just cancelled my subscription in solidarity with the OpenAI employees who signed the We Will Not Be Divided letter. I was a daily user of paid features like Deep Research. But not only was Anthropic's decision more ethical, their products are better, so I can't possibly justify the expense. Honestly I mostly was subscribed to take pressure off of my Claude usage limits, but I've just upped my Claude subscriptio…

Curious—does it export memory and stuff? And how do you import it into Claude? Do you tell Claude "here is a data dump?"

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by gunalx »

asymmetric wrote: post #175
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For non-Mac users: A laptop with an iGPU and loads of system RAM has the advantage of being able to use system ram in addition to VRAM to load models (assuming your gpu driver supports it, which most do afaik), so load up as much system RAM as you can. The downside is, the system RAM is less fast than dedicated GDDR5. These GPUs would be Radeon 890M and Intel Arc (previous generations are still decently good, if that…

> there are at least a dozen companies that provide non-Anthropic/non-OpenAI models in the cloud Do you have some links? Also I assume the privacy implications are vastly different compared to running locally?

for privacy preserving direct inference: Fireworks ai nebius

otherwise openrouter for routing to lots of different providers.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by maxbond »

abustamam wrote: post #232
maxbond wrote: post #198

I've just cancelled my subscription in solidarity with the OpenAI employees who signed the We Will Not Be Divided letter. I was a daily user of paid features like Deep Research. But not only was Anthropic's decision more ethical, their products are better, so I can't possibly justify the expense. Honestly I mostly was subscribed to take pressure off of my Claude usage limits, but I've just upped my Claude subscriptio…

Curious—does it export memory and stuff? And how do you import it into Claude? Do you tell Claude "here is a data dump?"

I'm not going to import it into Claude, I'm not sure what I'll do with it other than pulling out some Deep Research reports I haven't gotten around to yet but was planning to read in the immediate future. I do think that would almost work - Claude presumably can't create "old" chats but I think pointing an agent at Google Takeout-style dumps makes these more viable as leverage to actually move away from these services. I think asking the agent to turn it into an Obsidian vault is probably the best bet?

I have Memory turned off so I'm afraid I won't be able to tell. I would guess so. The export hasn't completed yet either.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by lioeters »

ddxv wrote: post #96
segmondy wrote: post #76

This is a good time to promote running your own models. I have been running my own models locally and I would wager a local model will meet 85-95% of your needs if you really learn to use it. These models have gotten great. For anyone wanting to get into this, the smartest models to run recently that is consumer friendly was just released, checkout Qwen3.5 the 27B and 35B variants. They are small and I recommend runn…

I really hope at some point in the near future AI models shrink enough or laptops get strong enough to run AI models locally. I haven't tried in the past year, but when I did it was very slow token output + laptop was on fire to make that happen. I've wanted to try some of the more recent 8B models for local tab completion or agentic, any experience with those kinds of smaller models?

I've been running local language models on an existing laptop with 8GB GPU, currently using ministral-3:8b. It's faster than other models of similar size I used previously, fast enough that I never wait for it, rather have to scroll back to read the full output.

So far I'm using it conversationally, and scripting with tools. I wrote a simple chat interface / REPL in the terminal. But it's not integrated with code editor, nor agentic/claw-like loops. Last time I tried an open-source Codex-like thing, a popular one but I forget its name, it was slow and not that useful for my coding style.

It took some practice but I've been able to get good use out of it, for learning languages (human and programming), translation, producing code examples and snippets, and sometimes bouncing ideas like a rubber-duck method.

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by JKCalhoun »

bjackman wrote: post #149
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For non-Mac users: A laptop with an iGPU and loads of system RAM has the advantage of being able to use system ram in addition to VRAM to load models (assuming your gpu driver supports it, which most do afaik), so load up as much system RAM as you can. The downside is, the system RAM is less fast than dedicated GDDR5. These GPUs would be Radeon 890M and Intel Arc (previous generations are still decently good, if that…

> there are at least a dozen companies that provide non-Anthropic/non-OpenAI models in the cloud, many of which are dirt cheap because of how fast and good open weights are now. Oh yeah, seems obvious now you said it, but this is a great point. I'm constantly thinking "I need to get into local models but I dread spending all that time and money without having any idea if the end result would be useful". But obviously…

I agree but I still have that itch to have my own local model—so it's not always about cost. A hobby?

(Besides, a hopped-up Mac would never go to waste in my home if it turns out the local LLM thing was not worth the cost.)

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by jerry_attrick »

UberFly wrote: post #181
jerry_attrick wrote: post #70

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this is going to be better than the time bezos killed the kamala endorsement to curry favor with the regime

Killing the Kamala endorsement wasn't a difficult call to be fair. Bezos just didn't want to endorse anyone. Easy to understand.

which is what you would say if you accept the narrative and ignore the history

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by Keyframe »

atwrk wrote: post #219
Keyframe wrote: post #208

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A Strix Halo with 128GB unified memory is less than $2k Where did you get that price? Wherever I looked it's around 3k euros which is around $3.5k

Directly from Bosgame.com, for ~1.7k€ in December. I see it's at $2.2k / 1.9k€ now.

why haven't I checked their site first is beyond me :) Thank you for this! You say you're satisfied, right?

Re: How do I cancel my ChatGPT subscription?

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

asymmetric wrote: post #175
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For non-Mac users: A laptop with an iGPU and loads of system RAM has the advantage of being able to use system ram in addition to VRAM to load models (assuming your gpu driver supports it, which most do afaik), so load up as much system RAM as you can. The downside is, the system RAM is less fast than dedicated GDDR5. These GPUs would be Radeon 890M and Intel Arc (previous generations are still decently good, if that…

> there are at least a dozen companies that provide non-Anthropic/non-OpenAI models in the cloud Do you have some links? Also I assume the privacy implications are vastly different compared to running locally?

Throw a rock and you'll hit one... Groq (not Grok, elon stole the name), Mistral, SiliconFlow, Clarifai, Hyperbolic, Databricks, Together AI, Fireworks AI, CompactifAI, Nebius Base, Featherless AI, Hugging Face (they do inference too), Cohere, Baseten, DeepInfra, Fireworks AI, DeepSeek, Novita AI, OpenRouter, xAI, Perplexity Labs, AI21, OctoAI, Reka, Cerebras, Fal AI, Nscale, OVHcloud AI, Public AI, Replicate, SambaNova, Scaleway, WaveSpeedAI, Z.ai, GMI Cloud, Nebius, Tensorwave, Lamini, Predibase, FriendliAI, Shadeform, Qualcomm Cloud, Alibaba Cloud AI, Poe, Bento LLM, BytePlus ModelArk, InferenceAI, IBM Wastonx.AI, AWS Bedrock, Microsoft, Google
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