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Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by bubblewand »

0xy wrote: post #204
j2kun wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is my favorite part of this story. Do you want remote code execution? Because [fixing things that aren't broken] is how you get remote code execution.

I think it's more likely that Microsoft is vibe coding slop garbage to replace their core apps that were literally better. Windows 10 explorer.exe is 100x faster than Windows 11 explorer, it's not even close. It also signals the death knell for Windows native apps. Microsoft can't make them anymore. It won't be long until even Excel is a Electron sloplication.

It's been so weird to watch over the decades as team sizes, budgets, and timelines have exploded even as we've abandoned once-normal things like native GUI applications as too hard in favor of "more efficient" webshit... even as the aforementioned stuff with growing team sizes, budgets, and timelines have happened.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by cyanydeez »

datenyan wrote: post #203
NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #175

step 1: remove wordpad step 2: omg there's demand for features step 3: turn notepad, whose point was to be a dumb simple thing, into a wordpad step 4: get a raise because you "solved" the problem

Glad (/s) to see the MBA-ification of tech companies continues uninterrupted as we enter the second half of the decade.

I assume there's like a single manager who's job it was was to maintain notepad and force use of AI, so obviously, vibe code needless features because if it's not broke, how can you fix it with AI.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by password4321 »

steve1977 wrote: post #217
0xy wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more likely that Microsoft is vibe coding slop garbage to replace their core apps that were literally better. Windows 10 explorer.exe is 100x faster than Windows 11 explorer, it's not even close. It also signals the death knell for Windows native apps. Microsoft can't make them anymore. It won't be long until even Excel is a Electron sloplication.

The best example is probably the new "Outlook", and I put that name in quotes intentionally.

In case anyone is not aware:

20231109 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38212453 Windows 11 Update 23H2 is stealing users' IMAP credentials (666 points, 278 comments)

> the new Outlook is a thin wrapper around the cloud version, so the IMAP sync happens in the cloud, not locally

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by cwillu »

irishcoffee wrote: post #95
jmclnx wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If by vi you mean vim, then I agree, real vi is rather lite. As someone famous said, "everything is relative" :) Compared to the new applications that have been coming out, Emacs and vim are a paragon of lightness.

I agree with you that vi is lighter than vim. I’ve seen more than a few instances of an OS just aliasing vi to vim. On that note, why are the keybindings for vi on a “modern” Ubuntu different from fedoras? I remember having to mess with ^H in a vimrc or something to that effect to mimic the behavior I was expecting.

Sounds like the terminal (not vi) you're using has different defaults; backspace and delete are the two common keys that vary.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by brokencode »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #175

step 1: remove wordpad step 2: omg there's demand for features step 3: turn notepad, whose point was to be a dumb simple thing, into a wordpad step 4: get a raise because you "solved" the problem

Yeah IDK. Wordpad is built around rich text, with all the weirdness and complexity that comes with it. I know for a fact that .rtf is absurdly complicated to work with, and I assume that .docx is similar.

I’m willing to bet that adding markdown to Notepad was a lot simpler than trying to make it work in Wordpad, especially since you’d probably still have to support rich text.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

Years ago replacing Notepad with an alternative was a given and everybody had their favourite. Before UTF everywhere you needed at least proper character encoding handling, other features followed.

Surprisingly, some of the projects such as AkelPad are still alive.

Win32 made things easier, as well as things like Delphi and Scintilla later.

Just checked my archives, and my own naive but functioning attempt measures whole whopping 36520 bytes, though not without the help of an executable packer, which was a fashion then.

Mostly works fine under Wine, though it is about the legal US drinking age.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by cwillu »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #183
well_ackshually wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>python >tkinter so you missed the part where notepad starts instantly, doesn't choke on files larger than 25KB and uses native Win32 controls ?

It only takes a few megabytes to make notepad have serious delays. Are you sure the linked program is any worse?

There's a world of difference between 25kb and 2mb

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by pelcg »

kiwijamo wrote: post #224
smusamashah wrote: post #206

We can just "uninstall" this notepad and it will restore old simple notepad.

Until a future Window release doesn't include the old notepad anymore.

This is my concern with Notepad and the old one will just be gone for ever. Same thing happened with paint.
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