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Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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The critical point is who the "we" is. Is "we" the parents teaching their children their own unique values, or is the "we" a government or corporation forcing one set of values on all children. Why not encourage the users of AI to use a Safety.md (populated with some reasonable but optional defaults)?

There's nothing a meaningless document can do when the AI is not aligned in the first place.

"alignment" is the computer version for (philosophical not medical) "consciousness", a totally subjective, immeasurable concept.

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It's so much worse than that. The government actively encourages a lack of business ethics. Heck, it started the term with a crypto rug pull. Money continues to funnel upward to all the worst players, and watchdogs are being targeted and destroyed. Even if you get new people in power, you're going to find the upper echelons completely full of outlandishly wealthy, morally bankrupt individuals that are very politicall…

> Heck, it started the term with a crypto rug pull If you ask me... that wasn't a rug pull, at least not in the intent - it more was a way for foreign actors to funnel money directly to Trump and his family without any trace.

Cryptocurrency is the most traceable money in the world. Cryptocurrency is for implusible deniability, not untraceability.

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Ah, the classic AI startup lifecycle: We must build a moat to save humanity from AI. Please regulate our open-source competitors for safety. Actually, safety doesn't scale well for our Q3 revenue targets.

The only surprise is how quickly it all happened!

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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> “We felt that it wouldn't actually help anyone for us to stop training AI models,” How magnanimous! They are only thinking of others, you see. They are rejecting their safety pledge for you . > “We didn't really feel, with the rapid advance of AI, that it made sense for us to make unilateral commitments … if competitors are blazing ahead.” Oops, said the quiet part out loud that it’s all about money. “I mean, if al…

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Was there actually a case of a model saying "America's founding father were black women", or is that just Elon fingering your amygdala with a ridiculous hypothetical that exists nowhere other than Elon's mind in order to justify Elon's personal bias tweaks when he doesn't like the wisdom-of-the-crowds answer his tools initially give?

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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If you're a U.S. citizen, tax dollars from you and others will backstop any cancelled subscriptions, I guess good on you for not trying to pay them twice, though you get zero benefit with this approach.

You've succinctly identified and communicated a real problem. In your opinion, what is the best approach, if any, to attempt to address it?

> In your opinion, what is the best approach, if any, to attempt to address it?

There aren't many options for fighting the tax man, "In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes". You're only option is to leave the US for somewhere better.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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Damn. Wonder what would have happened, if instead of caving in to the Pentagon's pressure (threat of invoking Defense Production Act to force them to supply), Anthropic had followed the lead of all the nurses who moved to Canada.

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/25/nx-s1-5725354/nurses-emigrate...

Anthropic's market cap is going to be huge when they go public. Why do it on Nasdaq when there are so many other exchanges in the world?

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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I mean seriously, is this not the very definition of fascism? "n general, fascist governments exercised control over private property but they did not nationalize it. Scholars also noted that big business developed an increasingly close partnership with the Italian Fascist and German Nazi governments after they took power. Business leaders supported the government's political and military goals. In exchange, the gove…

All governments do this

So you’re saying all governments are fascist? Because when I posted is the accepted understanding of the economic arm of fascism.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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Was there actually a case of a model saying "America's founding father were black women", or is that just Elon fingering your amygdala with a ridiculous hypothetical that exists nowhere other than Elon's mind in order to justify Elon's personal bias tweaks when he doesn't like the wisdom-of-the-crowds answer his tools initially give?

There were well-publicized cases of Gemini producing more diverse founding fathers images, female popes, etc.

Also, snarky tone is against the HN guidelines.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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post #216

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Yes, this. It's unfortunate that anthropic dropped this and it's also exactly how the system is supposed to work. Companies don't regulate themselves, the government regulates the companies. Now, you may notice that the government is also choosing not to regulate these companies...which is another matter altogether.

There is plenty of precedent that companies are expected to regulate themselves. If you are in the US and perform an engineering role without a license or without working under someone with a license, it’s because of an “industrial exemption.” The premise is that companies have enough standards and processes in place to mitigate that risk. However, there is also plenty of evidence that this setup may no longer work.…

Am exemption from PE stamping (misguided as it maybe) does not mean unregulated. There are still regulations on designs and builds.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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post #151

> “We felt that it wouldn't actually help anyone for us to stop training AI models,” How magnanimous! They are only thinking of others, you see. They are rejecting their safety pledge for you . > “We didn't really feel, with the rapid advance of AI, that it made sense for us to make unilateral commitments … if competitors are blazing ahead.” Oops, said the quiet part out loud that it’s all about money. “I mean, if al…

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> Still waiting for an explicit answer on understand how 'safety' is truly distinguishable from 'censorship' or 'political correctness'

i've said this many times but the concept of ai "safety" is really brand safety. What Anthropic is saying is they're willing to risk some bad press to bypass the additional training and find tuning to ensure their models do not output something people may find outrageous.

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