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I’m so glad I’m not going insane. I don’t see any examples on that site that I agree are ‘one word’. Sure they’re singular concepts but so what? Are we going to have singular words to describe all adjective noun pairs now?
Really? none are one word? How about "of course"?
Surprised that no comment mentioned that there is a standard term (not a word :P) for the set of words that denominates a particular concept: nominal syntagm. Such as "boiling water" and also "that green parrot we saw yesterday over the left branch". Also the slider examples are abysmal. "I love you", "Go home" and "How are you" are not words by any stretch of imagination. For someone who makes word games, I don't se…
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To me it boils down to (pun intended) > Traditional dictionaries skip almost all such phrases, because they contain spaces. Yes, because they're phrases, not words. I don't even understand what's surprising about this. Sure, the entire article talks about how dictionaries contain _some_ phrases; but it's clear it's not many of them. Dictionaries are for words, not phrases.
Technically they are both phrases and words. You can call them lexemes if you want to avoid confusing the computer programmers who do not understand that life isn't binary.
- A multi-word phrase is a phrase, not a word
- A lexeme is a basic unit of meaning in a language, like a word (and it's forms [1]) or phrase.
- Every place I was able to find described a lexeme as a "word _OR_ phrase", making it clear those two are different things.
- Dictionaries, in general, focus on words. Many do include phrases also. This point is less definitive; and just my understanding from looking at dictionaries and how they describe themselves. That being said, every source I can find that discussed something close to the topic seems to support this
[1] A word with all it's forms, in that "walk", "walked", and "walks" are all a single lexeme (with each form being a distinct word) OR a phrase
Side note: I'm not looking to "correct" anyone; just pointing out what information I'm able to find on the topic. I'm open to being corrected, but that correction would need to include reasonable sources.
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Technically they are both phrases and words. You can call them lexemes if you want to avoid confusing the computer programmers who do not understand that life isn't binary.
While this is certainly outside my wheelhouse, what I see in various locations is that (at least for English) - A multi-word phrase is a phrase, not a word - A lexeme is a basic unit of meaning in a language, like a word (and it's forms [1]) or phrase. - Every place I was able to find described a lexeme as a "word _OR_ phrase", making it clear those two are different things. - Dictionaries, in general, focus on words…
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Technically they are both phrases and words. You can call them lexemes if you want to avoid confusing the computer programmers who do not understand that life isn't binary.
While this is certainly outside my wheelhouse, what I see in various locations is that (at least for English) - A multi-word phrase is a phrase, not a word - A lexeme is a basic unit of meaning in a language, like a word (and it's forms [1]) or phrase. - Every place I was able to find described a lexeme as a "word _OR_ phrase", making it clear those two are different things. - Dictionaries, in general, focus on words…
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While this is certainly outside my wheelhouse, what I see in various locations is that (at least for English) - A multi-word phrase is a phrase, not a word - A lexeme is a basic unit of meaning in a language, like a word (and it's forms [1]) or phrase. - Every place I was able to find described a lexeme as a "word _OR_ phrase", making it clear those two are different things. - Dictionaries, in general, focus on words…
While not all phrases are words, the specific phrases we are talking about are a type of word known as an open compound word.
[1] I wonder how many here have ever been told something like "Prithee, husband, bring back a dozen canned goods from the market, for in the meanwhile I shall do my household chores".
Surprised that no comment mentioned that there is a standard term (not a word :P) for the set of words that denominates a particular concept: nominal syntagm. Such as "boiling water" and also "that green parrot we saw yesterday over the left branch". Also the slider examples are abysmal. "I love you", "Go home" and "How are you" are not words by any stretch of imagination. For someone who makes word games, I don't se…
Added a note: "'I love you' isn't opaque, but it's tight enough to put on a tile." The familiar end of the spectrum picks up collocations that are transparent but loaded — I'm not claiming they're words in the traditional sense, but they're useful vocabulary for word games, which is where I'm coming from.
The problem with introducing phrase/sentences into a word game (let's take Scrabble) is that you'd spend half the night with your friends arguing over what is and is not acceptable with the only litmus test being its... corpus frequency?
"Words" don't have "spaces."
Phrases are made of words separated by spaces.
"Boiling Water" is not a word.
"Water" is a word. A noun, the subject.
"Boiling" is a word. An adjective, in this case. Which modifies the subject.
I don't know if you're trying to be clever, but you're not.
> “Boiling water” isn’t “water that happens to be boiling.” It’s a hazard, a cooking stage, a state of matter I guess we'll have to disagree then, because "boiling water" is "water that's boiling" to me. It's not a different state of matter to "water", that would be "steam". It being a hazard doesn't mean it's a singular concept, same as "wet floor"
"Boiling water should be performed in a metal pot".
All of these are ancillary and depend on context, but in every one of these downstream cases the same underlying process is happening: the water is boiling.