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Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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What is a felony anymore when the felony is "submitted bad paperwork"?

I love how we in Africa can finally see open corruption in US. You guys can't be high and mighty anymore. You are one of us now.

As a Southern American I love it too.

Every single one of my ancestors who were in the war--except one--fought for the Confederacy in the War Between the States. (Or the War of Lincoln's Aggression, according to some. Yankees call it the "Civil War.")

Going further back, my Cherokee forefathers (the Chickamauga) were equally unimpressed by what they saw and experienced of this entity (they viewed it as a malignant tumor) that calls itself the "United" States of America.

I believe my ancestors are envious that I get to see the day when the truth of the Empire of Lies is finally exposed in front of all the world.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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If there is no real penalty for being a career criminal, people will continue to be career criminals. If someone knows they can rob people and get away with it, why would they do honest work for a living? What is your solution to prevent crime without incarceration as a possible outcome for people breaking the law… especially those who do it repeatedly? It’s easy to talk down to solutions being used today, but withou…

> If there is no real penalty for being a career criminal, people will continue to be career criminals. I know this is a wild idea, but what if they had better options than career criminal for a living? Americans are so invested in the penalties they can’t imagine the incentives approach.

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Flock cameras are assisted suicide for dying neighborhoods. They don't prevent crime, they record crime. Cleaning up vacant lots, planting trees, street lighting, trash removal, and traffic calming like adding planters and crosswalks reduce crime.

The vast majority of crimes are committed by a small percentage of people. The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders. But having video evidence is a powerful tool for a motivated prosecutor to actually take criminals off the streets

I agree. There needs to be a non racist president that just sweeps in and does a El Salvador type cleanup of the streets. I bet the 80%+ of normal black people in crime ridden cities like Baltimore, St. Louis, Memphis, Detroit, New Orleans would be in full support. Let’s be honest, young black gangsters are the main criminal element in these places. Trump can’t do this because he is a piece of shit with no integrity.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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You also need a high ladder.

Humans are just evolved monkeys. Climb the thing. Go ape.

Sorry to let you down but my arms have forgotten their ape lineage.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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I love how we in Africa can finally see open corruption in US. You guys can't be high and mighty anymore. You are one of us now.

As a Southern American I love it too. Every single one of my ancestors who were in the war--except one--fought for the Confederacy in the War Between the States. (Or the War of Lincoln's Aggression, according to some. Yankees call it the "Civil War.") Going further back, my Cherokee forefathers (the Chickamauga) were equally unimpressed by what they saw and experienced of this entity (they viewed it as a malignant tu…

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Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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If there is no real penalty for being a career criminal, people will continue to be career criminals. If someone knows they can rob people and get away with it, why would they do honest work for a living? What is your solution to prevent crime without incarceration as a possible outcome for people breaking the law… especially those who do it repeatedly? It’s easy to talk down to solutions being used today, but withou…

Those people are getting locked up more in the US than in any other country. Yet the crimes rates are not lower. In fact they're higher

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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flock safety were in one of y combinators incubator programs but to be fair, saying you want to make a camera company to improve public safety but then being used in a dystopian way... well it should have been foreseeable shouldn't it? Im conflicted in this, I love camera tech and its probably not going away any time soon, but wonder how it could be used responsibly for public safety only.

They actively WANT the dystopian surveillance state.

Source? That’s a substantial claim on a platform run by Y Combinator.

Re: Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras

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Where I am (Sydney Australia) we have fixed speed cameras that automatically create speeding fines to drivers going too fast (well, technically the registered owner of the vehicle via ANPR). They eventually had to equip pretty much every speed camera with a speed camera camera, usually on a much higher pole to make vandalism more difficult.

This will never be a thing in America. Good luck putting the camera on a pole higher than a redneck can shoot a rifle.

In the mid-2000s the company I worked for in Glasgow fitting microwave links to buildings (broadband wasn't readily available outside cable TV aerials) had a pile of ODUs that had been shot off roofs.

Mostly from one particularly benighted area, Easterhouse. If you extensively gentrified Easterhouse back then, it would look like Detroit in the 90s. It's improved a little since then.

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