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Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Has anyone noticed that models are dropping ever faster, with pressure on companies to make incremental releases to claim the pole position, yet making strides on benchmarks? This is what recursive self-improvement with human support looks like.

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Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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post #37

Surprisingly big jump in ARC-AGI-2 from 31% to 77%, guess there's some RLHF focused on the benchmark given it was previously far behind the competition and is now ahead. Apart from that, the usual predictable gains in coding. Still is a great sweet-spot for performance, speed and cost. Need to hack Claude Code to use their agentic logic+prompts but use Gemini models. I wish Google also updated Flash-lite to 3.0+, wou…

>I wish Google also updated Flash-lite to 3.0+ I hope every day that they have made gains on their diffusion model. As a sub agent it would be insane, as it's compute light and cranks 1000+ tk/s

Agree, can't wait for updates to the diffusion model.

Could be useful for planning too, given its tendency to think big picture first. Even if it's just an additional subagent to double-check with an "off the top off your head" or "don't think, share first thought" type of question. More generally would like to see how sequencing autoregressive thinking with diffusion over multiple steps might help with better overall thinking.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Implementation and Sustainability Hardware: Gemini 3 Pro was trained using Google’s Tensor Processing Units (TPUs). TPUs are specically designed to handle the massive computations involved in training LLMs and can speed up training considerably compared to CPUs. TPUs often come with large amounts of high-bandwidth memory, allowing for the handling of large models and batch sizes during training, which can lead to bet…

When I worked there, there was a mix of training on nvidia GPUs (especially for sparse problems when TPUs weren't as capable), CPUs, and TPUs. I've been gone for a few years but I've heard a few anecdotal statements that some of their researchers have to use nvidia GPUs because the TPUs are busy.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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post #72

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Great pelican but what’s up with that fish in the basket?

It's a pelican. What do you expect a pelican to have in his bike's basket? It's a pretty funny and coherent touch!

> What do you expect a pelican to have in his bike's basket?

Probably stuff it cannot fit in the gullet, or don't want there (think trash). I wouldn't expect a pelican to stash fish there, that's for sure.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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I like to think that all these pelican riding a bicycle comments are unwittingly iteratively creating the optimal cyclist pelican as these comment threads are inevitably incorporated in every training set.

More like half of Google's AI team is hanging out on HN, and they can optimise for that outcome to get a good rep among the dev community.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Jeff Dean just posted an animated version: https://x.com/JeffDean/status/2024525132266688757

One underrated thing about the recent frontier models, IMO, is that they are obviating the need for image gen as a standalone thing. Opus 4.6 (and apparently 3.1 Pro as well) doesn't have the ability to generate images but it is so good at making SVG that it basically doesn't matter at this point. And the benefit of SVG is that it can be animated and interactive. I find this fascinating because it literally just happ…

> doesn't have the ability to generate images but it is so good at making SVG that it basically doesn't matter at this point

Yeah, since the invention of vector images, suddenly no one cares about raster images anymore.

Obviously not true, but that's how your comment reads right now. "Image" is very different from "Image", and one doesn't automagically replace the other.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Simons been doing this exact test for nearly 18 months now, if vendors want to benchmaxx it then they've had more than enough time to do so already.

Exactly. As far as I'm concerned, the benchmark is useless. It's way too easy and rewarding to train on it.

Y'all are way too skeptical, no matter what cool thing AI does you'll make up an excuse for how they must somehow be cheating.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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post #17

Has anyone noticed that models are dropping ever faster, with pressure on companies to make incremental releases to claim the pole position, yet making strides on benchmarks? This is what recursive self-improvement with human support looks like.

With the advent of MoEs, efficiency gains became possible. However, MoEs still operate far from the balance and stability of dense models. My view is that most progress comes from router tuning based on good and bad outcomes, with only marginal gains in real intelligence

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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post #11
post #6

blog post is up- https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/ge... edit: biggest benchmark changes from 3 pro: arc-agi-2 score went from 31.1% -> 77.1% apex-agents score went from 18.4% -> 33.5%

The touted SVG improvements make me excited for animated pelicans.

SVG is an under-rated use case for LLMs because it gives you the scalability of vector graphics along with CSS-style interactivity (hover effects, animations, transitions, etc.).
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