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US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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post #94

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It’s a clear way to project soft power: make sure your message and culture can get through.

It might do that too , but access to information is just so utterly critical, and exponentially moreso in circumstances where government brutally cracks down on it, as we saw in Egypt during the Arab Spring and we're seeing in Iran presently.

Access to information is dangerous when the information is controlled propaganda.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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So it'll have porn?

I wonder if American citizens from states which requires age verification to access porn (25 US states today) will be fine with it or these states will start demanding ID to access freedom.gov. It would be delicious irony.

Or, since it's apparently run by HHS, surely they will protect people looking for resources about abortion, hormones, etc.

Real rich material coming from the government demanding it's biggest Internet companies unmask government critics.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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at one point, HN was anti-censorship. this discussion shows how ideologically aligned this concept has become.

there are volleys back and forth of "what censorship" followed by links to wikipedia enumerating it. RT and Joe Rogan are thrown in the mix.

when did this experiment fail?

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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post #174

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Concrete examples - in Germany you are not allowed to insult politicians or the government in social media. In Italy, people have faced criminal charges for simply criticizing the prime minister. When the government does not allow its population to freely speak against it, it's just waiting to be abused by one bad leader.

> Concrete examples - in Germany you are not allowed to insult politicians or the government in social media. You're not allowed to insult anyone , https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__185.html , though the term "insult" is not nearly as broadly defined as in everyday speech. The law dates back to the 18th century, and has largely been unchanged for 150 years. I really don't understand the recent outrage over th…

> has largely been unchanged for 150 years. I really don't understand the recent outrage over these and other laws. We have been fine

The last 150 years of Germany have...ahem...not been what I would call "fine."

It would be interesting to have a replay of history without this law and similar ones related to it. Could be nothing different happens.

On the other hand, any law regulating speech is going to have a reverberating effect on the marketplace of ideas with 2nd and 3rd order outcomes that are impossible to disentangle after the fact.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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post #76

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Man In The Middle. They're saying that the US is intercepting the traffic.

What do you think cloudflare is? This is just them coming out with it now.

I am not claiming the OP ist right or wrong.

I am merely explaining what MITM is and what the OP meant.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

#238

Until you have to validate your id/age to continue... Seriously though... we have one segment undermining foreign lockdowns while the same and other segments are literally doing the same here.

its like we have different smaller governments that can pass their own laws inside of one larger government or something

This comment made my day :)

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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> Concrete examples - in Germany you are not allowed to insult politicians or the government in social media. You're not allowed to insult anyone , https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__185.html , though the term "insult" is not nearly as broadly defined as in everyday speech. The law dates back to the 18th century, and has largely been unchanged for 150 years. I really don't understand the recent outrage over th…

> has largely been unchanged for 150 years. I really don't understand the recent outrage over these and other laws. We have been fine The last 150 years of Germany have...ahem...not been what I would call "fine." It would be interesting to have a replay of history without this law and similar ones related to it. Could be nothing different happens. On the other hand, any law regulating speech is going to have a reverb…

> The last 150 years of Germany have...ahem...not been what I would call "fine."

But it's certainly not been because of that law…

At the very least I'm sure you'll agree we've been fine the last 80 or so years. Again, I'm just saying I don't understand the outrage right now.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93dnnxewdvo As for traffic, I can’t cite numbers, you’ll just have to trust me when I say it. I can’t give you packet breakdown or IP4 vs IP6. To have that discussion requires a secret clearance at least.

Let’s be serious for a minute here. If you’re claiming to have secret clearance on an Internet forum, you don’t.

You may be surprised how cavalier some people are about their clearance.
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