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I’m paying over 40 dollars a month for YouTube but it doesn’t allow me to choose almost anything of what I see, despite trying hard to fine-tune my recommendations. I can’t permanently turn off shorts - and this I find personally insulting. It really feels like encountering a drug dealer outside my house every time I come home, always expecting me to cave and try some of that good smack. But apart from ignoring me wh…

Since the beginning of Youtube, it has always struck my as reeking of such desperation to keep you hooked. Just the idea that you're watching a video, and there is simultaneously a list of 10 OTHER videos right next to the view. Most have become so numbed to that, but if you step back you should find it just such a sign of desperation to hook you (is the best way I can put it). Before a video is even over, they have…

First I will say that clearly all these attention hooks must work or they wouldn't keep doing them but, for me, it just doesn't match how I use YT.

Specifically, I am almost always going to YT with the intention of watching something specific. It could be because I need to solve a problem (eg installing a smoke detector). I also for some reason use it to play music despite having Spotify. I honestly don't know why.

But I almost never go to YT to look for something to watch. I do sometimes watch a related video after I'm done but this wouldn't happen more than 10-15% of the time. I think I'm in the minority here as people seem to go on YT and just keep chaining videos.

But I find YT's interface to be a confusing mess of "me too" products that are half-assed and various likely fiefdoms that force UX onto things that don't make sense.

For example, YT's Live streams are, well, ass. The player is terrible. The UX is terrible. And you still have that right panel showing related videos. But watching Live videos is a vastly different UX than watching VODs. So why is it there? I suspect because whatever team owns that recommendation panel has a lot of power. And it probably drives metrics still so it's still there.

And bringing this back to YT Shorts. Ugh, I too would like to never see them. It's a "me too" Tiktok. And it's worse. Tiktok's UI/UX is just a step above Shorts (and Reels). And I spend 98% of my Tiktok time on my fyp.

But yes the "please watch another video" UI is everywhere. The end of a video, your home page, the right panel and in-video prompts/

Re: uBlock filter list to hide all YouTube Shorts

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Unhook[1] has been my go-to for this. Gives full customization over shorts, recommendations, comments, etc. 1a: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-recom... 1b: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/unhook-remove-youtu...

Unhook is solid. I’m building Maxxmod [1] (shameless plug). The goal is similar in spirit, but with more granular control, a structured admin panel with live previews.

Still in development, but feedback from the HN crowd is very welcome. The site includes interactive prototypes and screenshots that give a clear picture of what it’s aiming to become.

[1] https://maxxmod.com

Re: uBlock filter list to hide all YouTube Shorts

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Here is another one I found in my personal userscripts. I believe this script is more effective than my previous one because it prevents recommendations for Shorts or other videos from being shown. // ==UserScript== // @name No YT Sidebar and Shorts // @match https://www.youtube.com/* // ==/UserScript== function noYTSidebar () { const element = document.getElementById('secondary') if (element === null) { window.setTi…

This is what I used, they have field `is-short`, https://github.com/epicseven-cup/remove-youtube-short/blob/m... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/remove-youtub...

Thanks for sharing. I realised I have several userscripts I've written over time to tackle web browsing distractions. I found another one and this is probably the most effective for me because it hides Shorts at the CSS level. That means I don't need to rely on setTimeout(..., 1000) to catch elements that get inserted dynamically after the page loads.

  (function () {
    const css = `
      #secondary { display: none }
      .ytd-rich-shelf-renderer { display: none }
    `
    const style = document.createElement('style')
    style.textContent = css
    document.head.appendChild(style)
  })()

Re: uBlock filter list to hide all YouTube Shorts

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I’m paying over 40 dollars a month for YouTube but it doesn’t allow me to choose almost anything of what I see, despite trying hard to fine-tune my recommendations. I can’t permanently turn off shorts - and this I find personally insulting. It really feels like encountering a drug dealer outside my house every time I come home, always expecting me to cave and try some of that good smack. But apart from ignoring me wh…

And yet if Youtube didn't have a paid option (and still now, even while it does) people would be saying If you're not paying, You're the product

Sorry - these companies have proven they're malicious even while you're paying them

(Except possibly Gmail. Facebook Verified is apparently a crock of shit, but Gmail MIGHT give you some account support more than people who don't pay)

Re: uBlock filter list to hide all YouTube Shorts

#236

I’m paying over 40 dollars a month for YouTube but it doesn’t allow me to choose almost anything of what I see, despite trying hard to fine-tune my recommendations. I can’t permanently turn off shorts - and this I find personally insulting. It really feels like encountering a drug dealer outside my house every time I come home, always expecting me to cave and try some of that good smack. But apart from ignoring me wh…

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Re: uBlock filter list to hide all YouTube Shorts

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YT is desperate for me to engage with rage bait news, and I’m not biting. It’s so god damn annoying, regardless of how often I choose to ignore channels or don’t suggest feedback. All they care about is vote time…give me content I want to view! Also, in the evenings, my timeline gets weirdly paranoid phobia centric, like deep insecurities people live with that are triggering and keep you up late. It’s so obvious YT i…

I only use YouTube with my watch history set to off. So there is no feed, and I only see updates from channels I actually subscribed to. If I want to see some random crap I go search for it but it’s a clean slate next time I open the app. I have found this method of using YouTube to be extremely useful.

I transitioned to using youtube with just that left sidebar for updates from channels i subscribed to, id watch the 2-3 creators videos maybe, slowly that became 1, now its 0. I still consider watching that final creator, but if i do its gonna be because i went to youtube and wanted to type that channel into the search bar, not because of a notification.

Everyone seems to act like youtube is something we need, I just don't really agree. If i want to watch something for entertainment, there are so many amazing shows with deep stories to choose from. If i want to learn, the video medium to me is just straight up garbage. I prefer to read to learn.

Of course there are topics this doesnt totally apply to, but for my purposes, videos are almost always just a way to not only likely repeat the same things you already know for a good chunk of the video, but when you finally find the meat, its still being delivered in a slower way than it could be ingested by reading.

Re: uBlock filter list to hide all YouTube Shorts

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By paying for youtube, you're supporting Google and walled gardens more than creators, I'd argue.

Not financially, since creators get 55% of YouTube premium fees.

almost all creators have some other way to get paid by viewers, and they'll take a good chunk more than 55%, why give google a dime. Not to mention its more direct support for the creators you actually care about, and an absurd higher amount than a subscription would ever benefit that individual.

Re: uBlock filter list to hide all YouTube Shorts

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YT is desperate for me to engage with rage bait news, and I’m not biting. It’s so god damn annoying, regardless of how often I choose to ignore channels or don’t suggest feedback. All they care about is vote time…give me content I want to view! Also, in the evenings, my timeline gets weirdly paranoid phobia centric, like deep insecurities people live with that are triggering and keep you up late. It’s so obvious YT i…

Do not give them the satisfaction. Dont like videos and never comment on anything. The videos are the bait. The comments sections are the trap. Use youtube as a multi-channel TV. Keep it a one-way stream of data. Give them nothing beyond the unavoidable knowledge of what you watch.

I am waiting for the day when they permanently turn off the channels rss feeds. Recently, after years of smooth sailing, they had a couple of outages, first selective, with only about 50% of my feeds effected and yesterday again with 100%, returning 404s. I am concerned given this development and alphabets apparent plan to kill as much interop as possible.

For the uninitiated, afaik, some feedreaders can auto discover the rss url when you add the channels url. Otherwise you have to manually search the channel page source for 'RSS' or 'channel_id='.

Re: uBlock filter list to hide all YouTube Shorts

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I pay for plenty of goods and services. Just not YouTube. As others have noted, YouTube premium makes ads go away, but none of the other engagement baiting and user disrespecting anti-patterns. As far as I'm concerned, Google is in adversarial relationship with its users, whether your paying or not.

I currently pay for YouTube premium but I'm strongly considering stopping again. For me it's a combination of prices creeping up (small part) and the worsening UX and engagement-bait (big part). It's the same reason I dropped Spotify a few years ago.

i dropped spotify because i saw how terrible the non paid version of spotify is between payments, and was offended at how much i felt they used my library to hold me hostage.

Im not interested in being held hostage to pay a company xx$ a month for literally my entire life. At least when a netflix subscription is over, its not crafting up ways to torture its users into feeling obligated to resubscribe. Not that i like the streaming video services much either...

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