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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Honest question: What does it mean to "raid" the offices of a tech company? It's not like they have file cabinets with paper records. Are they just seizing employee workstations? Seems like you'd want to subpoena source code or gmail history or something like that. Not much interesting in an office these days.

These days many tech company offices have a "panic button" for raids that will erase data. Uber is perhaps the most notorious example.

How do you know this?

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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These days many tech company offices have a "panic button" for raids that will erase data. Uber is perhaps the most notorious example.

>notorious What happened to due process? Every major firm should have a "dawn raid" policy to comply while preserving rights. Specific to the Uber case(s), if it were illegal, then why didn't Uber get criminal charges or fines? At best there's an argument that it was "obstructing justice," but logging people off, encrypting, and deleting local copies isn't necessarily illegal.

It is aggressive compliance. The legality would be determined by the courts as usual.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Honest question: What does it mean to "raid" the offices of a tech company? It's not like they have file cabinets with paper records. Are they just seizing employee workstations? Seems like you'd want to subpoena source code or gmail history or something like that. Not much interesting in an office these days.

> Seems like you'd want to subpoena source code or gmail history or something like that.

This would be done in parallel for key sources.

There is a lot of information on physical devices that is helpful, though. Even discovering additional apps and services used on the devices can lead to more discovery via those cloud services, if relevant.

Physical devices have a lot of additional information, though: Files people are actively working on, saved snippets and screenshots of important conversations, and synced data that might be easier to get offline than through legal means against the providers.

In outright criminal cases it's not uncommon for individuals to keep extra information on their laptop, phone, or a USB drive hidden in their office as an insurance policy.

This is yet another good reason to keep your work and personal devices separate, as hard as that can be at times. If there's a lawsuit you don't want your personal laptop and phone to disappear for a while.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Elon fiddles with the algorithm to boost certain accounts. Some accounts are behind an auth wall and others are not. It’s open but not even.

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It gives people who aren't aware of the bot accounts / thumb on the scale the perception that insane crackpot delusions are more popular than they are.

There is a reason Musk paid so much for Twitter. If this stuff had no effect he wouldn't have bought it.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Elon fiddles with the algorithm to boost certain accounts. Some accounts are behind an auth wall and others are not. It’s open but not even.

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The same way that social media has destabilized the USA.

By exposing people to a flood of misinformation and politically radicalizing content designed to maximize engagement via emotion (usually anger).

Remember when Elon Musk alleged that he was going to find a trillion dollars (a year) in waste fraud and abuse with DOGE? Did he ever issue a correction on that statement after catastrophically failing to do so? Do you think that kind of messaging might damage the trust in our institutions?

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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post #161

Honest question: What does it mean to "raid" the offices of a tech company? It's not like they have file cabinets with paper records. Are they just seizing employee workstations? Seems like you'd want to subpoena source code or gmail history or something like that. Not much interesting in an office these days.

These days many tech company offices have a "panic button" for raids that will erase data. Uber is perhaps the most notorious example.

It wasn't erasing as far I know, but locking all computers.

Covered here: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/jul/10/uber-bosses-tol...

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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if a user uses a tool to break the law it's on the person who broke the law not the people who made the tool. knife manufacturers aren't to blame if someone gets stabbed right?

If a knife manufacturer constructs an apparatus wherein someone can simply write "stab this child" on a whim to watch a knife stab a child, that manufacturer would in fact discover they are in legal peril to some extent.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Far right to me is advocating for things that discriminate based on protected traits like race, sex, etc. So if you’re advocating for “white culture” above others, that’s far right. If you’re advocating for the 19th amendment (women’s right to vote) to be repealed (as Nick Fuentes and similar influencers do), that’s also far right. Advocating for ICE to terrorize peaceful residents, violate constitutional rights, or…

By your definition Musk is not far right. > Avoiding the deeply unethical grifting and corruption the Trump administration has normalized. Care to give examples of these?

I hate to wade into this cesspool. How about some of the real obvious ones:

  * Crypto currency rug pulls (World Liberty Financial)
  * Donations linked with pardons (Binance)
  * Pardoning failed rebels of a coup that favored him (Capitol rioters)
  * Bringing baseless charges against political enemies and journalists (Comey, Letitia James, Don Lemon)
  * Musk (DOGE) killing government regulatory agencies that had investigations and cases against his companies
This is with two minutes of thought while waiting for a compile. I'm open to hearing how I am wrong.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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It hadn't occurred to me that might be the reason they picked 420

It’s unlikely, because putting the month first is a US thing. In France it would be 20/04, or “20 avril”.

Still, stoner-cultures in many countries in Europe celebrate 4-20, definitively a bunch of Frenchies getting extra stoned that day. It's probably the de-facto "international cannabis day" in most places in the world, at least the ones influenced by US culture which reached pretty far in its heyday.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Why would X have offices in France? I'm assuming it's just to hire French workers? Probably leftover from the Pre Acquisition era. Or is there any France-specific compliance that must be done in order to operate in that country?

X makes its money selling advertising. France is the obvious place to have an office selling advertising to a large European French-speaking audience.
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