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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

You are describing everything Microsoft has done since at least the late 90s.

Things were named fine back then. Small Business Server, Office, Frontpage, Internet Information Server, Visual Studio...

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Anthropic has a model. Microsoft doesn't.

Microsoft has a model nearly as old as the company. Attempt to build a product... Fail. Buy someone else's product/steal someone else's product... Succeed.

We love to hate on Microsoft here, but the fact is they are one of the most diversified tech companies out there. I would say they are probably the most diversified, actually. Operating systems, dev tools, business applications, cloud, consumer apps, SaaS, gaming, hardware. They are everywhere in the stack.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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That isn't going well for Satya.

Indeed it's not: https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/01/09/is-microsoft-losing... And: https://www.perspectives.plus/p/microsoft-365-copilot-commer... Tldr: Copilot has 1% marketshare among web chatbots and 1.85% of paid M365 users bought a subscription to it. As much as I think AI is overrated already, Copilot is pretty much the worst performing one out there from the big tech companies. Despite all the Copilot butto…

They put it into the Azure portal, and I tried to get it to answer me what the open resource cost us in storage. It appeared retarded at first, but then I realized it didn't have access to know what I had opened or anything.

Until MS makes sure their models get the necessary context, I don't even care to click on them.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

> It cannot do this. It will spit out nonsense.

It's unbelievable how bad they failed at this. If you do the same with Claude or ChatGPT via simple web interface, they get miles ahead.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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I try GitHub Copilot every once in a while, and just last month it still managed to produce diffs with unbalanced curly braces, or tried to insert (what should be) a top-level function into the middle of another function and screw up everything. This wasn’t on a free model like GPT 4.1 or 5-mini, IIRC it was 5.2 Codex. What the actual fuck? Only explanation I can come up with is that their pay-per-request model made…

You're not using the good models and then blaming the tool? Just use claude models. Copilot's main problem seems to be people don't know how to use it. They need to delete all their plugins except the vscode, CLI ones, and disable all models except anthropic ones. The Claude Code reputation diff is greatly exaggerated beyond that.

5.2 Codex is up there with claude lmao

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft has a model nearly as old as the company. Attempt to build a product... Fail. Buy someone else's product/steal someone else's product... Succeed.

That's a "business" model, not a language model, which I believe is what the poster is referring to. In any case though, MS does have a number of models, most notably Phi. I don't think anyone is using them for significant work though.

It's a word play, if their LLM model sucks too much they'll get someone else's.

I mean they fought the browser war for years, then just used Chrome.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet

My peak experience so far was trying to search if there was an extension of dotnet interactive for visual studio or only for visual studio code.

the interactive console is built into Visual Studio, no extension needed

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

#238

“ Microsoft told me last year that 91 percent of its engineering teams use GitHub Copilot” Well, that might explain why all their products are unusable lately.

They have been unstable for decades. Does anyone still use self-hosted (running in a basement) windows servers? Running a windows machine feels like it's about as reliable as fast food order accuracy. Most of the time sure, but I hope you can afford to miss out sometimes.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Explains why Windows updates have been more broken than usual lately. But I guess having my computer randomly stop working because a billion dollar corporation needs to save money by using a shitty text generation algorithm to write code instead of hiring competent programmers is just the new normal now.

I switched to Ubuntu last week for my desktop. First time in my 25+ year career I’ve felt like Microsoft was wasting my time more than administering a Linux desktop would take. The slop effect is real.

I've used Kubuntu for several years, wife too now which is an official, supported flavor of Ubuntu using KDE desktop instead of Gnome. It gives a more Windows like or CDE (Common Desktop Environment - from UNIX systems) feel than Gnome which gives a more Mac feel.
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