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Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Funnily enough about 10 years ago, I had noisy neighbours playing music late at night and after some fruitless attempts at politely asking them to turn the sound down, I found their wifi and ran a 'deauth attack'. Effectively flooding their wifi with packets disconnecting devices. Followed by a, "fuck!" Safe to say we got peaceful nights sleep.

Is this a felony?

No, it was self defense.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Five miles from pavement, and my air quality is perfect 365 days per year. I hear some gunshots during hunting season, echoing across the valley, but they'd be drowned out by the frogs singing--they're way louder. Wait until these guys start telling you you don't need a truck.

> I hear some gunshots during hunting season

I don't mind the gunshots near my house during hunting season, because I have good neighbors. Those shots mean my freezer is getting stocked with venison.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #115

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Good neighborhood = keep your emissions low. Be it sound, light, or smell. These rules apply to almost all public places. If you want to be loud, burn shit or have floodlights, move to a place outside of the city.

i see both sides, having lived with both super sensitive and petty neighbors, and also inconsiderate, loud neighbors.

There are definitely sensitive people who have either misophonia rage, or PTSD from something, and they can't handle normal levels of city noise.

on top of that, some apartments simply allow smoking inside. If they always use the balcony, they're really doing you a favor.

if you are worried about emissions, you really have to think about cars and refineries and jets, and even restaurants. These are incredibly out of control when it comes to pollution and disease.

in my experience, if you're buying machines and building devices, and your target refuses to play that game, then it's clear who the adult is, and who the child is.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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Triple-glazed windows do work wonder. I live atm in a modern construction with triple-glazed windows everywhere. Now it's not the city per se, more like the posh suburbs, but it's still an apartment, with neighbors. But you don't hear them, nor do you hear the cars outside. That said TFA's author is a real dick and that is seen in the way he writes. You don't "teach" your neighbors and you don't program them in a pav…

> You don't "teach" your neighbors and you don't program them in a pavlovian way. Sure you do. Punishment of bad behavior is a basic social rule. Words were exchanged. All they had to do was listen, understand and stop the bad behavior. Had they done that, things would not have escalated beyond a polite conversation. Unfortunately, people often choose overt disrespect instead. They choose to challenge the other guy t…

> If anything they should be glad the punishment was as civilized as this. There are many places in this world where it could easily escalate to actual violence.

Agreed. But there’s a reason that guy apparently felt no worries about closing the door in OP’s face. Perhaps the likelihood of it escalating was slim. And there’s a reason why OP didn’t knock again.

In the resolution you propose in another comment, deviance doesn’t cease. It transfers to the guy who thinks he can correct people’s behavior with technology. But I need to remind myself where I’m saying this at.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

#237
post #53

This reminds me of this guy [1] My neighbor is smoking on the balcony, and smoke goes to my home with little kids. I talked with him several times, didn't help. It's his territory, so not much I can do, besides closing the doors. But at least i can use this fake smoke detector with VERY ANNOYING random buzzer. It starts buzzing when i connect to it my iPhone via BLE. Makes it not as relaxing to smoke on the balcony a…

LOL, this reminds me of that iconic TBBT episode where Sheldon "trains" Penny with "positive reinforcement". ;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qy_mIEnnlF4

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #96

This is the stupidest nitpick, but it's not really Pavlovian conditioning (as mentioned in the last paragraph) but rather operant conditioning. Pavlovian, or classical conditioning is the triggering of a biological response after a neutral stimulus (ring a bell before feeding each time and the dog will salivate when it hears the bell even if there's no food anywhere nearby). Operant conditioning is where the agent le…

it might not be anything, but the neighbor simply yielding to every little rule in the head of another neighbor.

we haven't established that the neighbor knows whether or not someone is screwing with him.

when my building had a person like that, who played these games all day for decades, some either just ignored all of it, while others simply moved out when they could.

Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #192

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People should just make better fires. A good fire doesn't release much, if any smoke. It burns it up instead. A good woodstove is worth the money.

The stink remains even for efficient fires. Smoke is often correlated of course. I'm in Christchurch, New Zealand which gets winter smog,. The city council enforces rules and woodburners need to meet strict emission standards. They regularly tighten the rules so that if you want a woodburner you need to replace it every 15 years or so. But they do still smell. The rules have radically improved the air quality here an…

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Re: Teaching my neighbor to keep the volume down

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post #182
post #107

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No smokers in my neighborhood, but people use their goddamn fireplaces too much and it’s kinda impossible to get fresh air in winter evenings and often during the day. Not sure how to train them. And unfortunately, there are too many. Burning wood should be forbidden in residential areas. It’s similar to smoking in restaurants, except you can’t escape them.

100% agree, many people don’t realize just how harmful wood smoke is. It’s also the main source of pollution in the Bay Area during the winter. Unfortunately energy costs are high enough here that people resort to burning wood to save money, so collectively beneficial policies are likely to face resistance (understandably). The purpleair map has been awesome to at least make the problem visible. I hope they are using…

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