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OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by browningstreet »

turnsout wrote: post #206
azinman2 wrote: post #187

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Post it!

A lot of the system prompt, skills and tools center around my specific needs (I manage separate IMAP and Gmail inboxes, use Granola, and have iCloud calendars). And there are some hard assumptions baked in (I want to have a morning & afternoon check-in). It probably wouldn't be useful as-is, but maybe as inspiration?

I'd love to see even a filtered version of it. I've been doing very similar things with an "everything" database. That's been my own personal northstar.

BTW, OpenCode has free Kimi (I haven't hit a quota yet) right now and it's done pretty great things for me in the last 24 hours.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by browningstreet »

fnordlord wrote: post #179
jmathai wrote: post #133

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Are you all enabling auto reload for personal projects? I load $20 at a time and wait for it to break and add more.

Can you get meaningful work done with CC at $20 at a time? I load $20 at a time onto the API for general chatting purposes and it lasts a few months at a time. I've always avoided trying CC because I got the impression people were burning $100+/mo, which is beyond my personal hobby budget.

I keep a master llm.md file and rotate between Claude Code (Pro), Antigravity Opus, Antigravity Flash, and OpenCode Kimi. I don't actually mind hitting limits.. though I'm least happy when Opus goes away.

My entire process is to build a generic llm.md file that all the tools can use and record to. I don't want to be tied completely to any one solution. You can get pretty far without spending a lot on tokens. I can run almost continually, and presently I'm the bottleneck anyway.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by 29athrowaway »

nsauk wrote: post #210

┌─────┬──────────┬─────────────────────┬───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ # │ Name │ Key Commit │ Notes │ ├─────┼──────────┼─────────────────────┼───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤ │ 1 │ Warelay │ 16dfc1a5b (initial) │ Original name - "WhatsApp Relay CLI (Twilio)" │ ├─────┼──────────┼─────────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────…

Next time try indenting with 4 spaces, then it gets monospaced

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by quietsegfault »

fnordlord wrote: post #179
jmathai wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you all enabling auto reload for personal projects? I load $20 at a time and wait for it to break and add more.

Can you get meaningful work done with CC at $20 at a time? I load $20 at a time onto the API for general chatting purposes and it lasts a few months at a time. I've always avoided trying CC because I got the impression people were burning $100+/mo, which is beyond my personal hobby budget.

I'm successful with personal projects (reverse engineering USB devices, sledding spot finder, silly stuff) on the $20/mo Claude plan. I rarely use Opus except for planning larger things.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by turnsout »

browningstreet wrote: post #231
turnsout wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of the system prompt, skills and tools center around my specific needs (I manage separate IMAP and Gmail inboxes, use Granola, and have iCloud calendars). And there are some hard assumptions baked in (I want to have a morning & afternoon check-in). It probably wouldn't be useful as-is, but maybe as inspiration?

I'd love to see even a filtered version of it. I've been doing very similar things with an "everything" database. That's been my own personal northstar. BTW, OpenCode has free Kimi (I haven't hit a quota yet) right now and it's done pretty great things for me in the last 24 hours.

Oh interesting—how do you find OpenCode vs CC? I'll check it out. And I'll try to get a version of this assistant in a form I could share publicly.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by browningstreet »

calgoo wrote: post #65
3rodents wrote: post #48

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The first name and the second name were both terrible. Yes, the creator could have held firm on "clawd" and forced Anthropic to go through all the legal hoops but to what end? A trademark exists to protect from confusion and "clawd" is about as confusing as possible, as if confusing by design. Imagine telling someone about a great new AI project called "clawd" and trying to explain that it's not the Claude they are f…

Interesting, I dont read claude the same way as clawd, but I'm based in Spain so I tend to read it as French or Spanish. I tend to read it as `claud-e` with an emphasis on the e at the end. I would read clawd as `claw-d` with a emphasis in the D, but yes i guess American English would pronounce them the same way. Edit: Just realized i have been reading and calling it after Jean-Claude Van Damme all this time. Happy f…

Greg Eisenberg will pronounce it both ways in the same video: clawd and cload. As an American I very much use clawd for Claude.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by currymj »

bob1029 wrote: post #4

I would have stood my ground on the first name longer. Make these legal teams do some actual work to prove they are serious. Wait until you have no other option. A polite request is just that. You can happily ignore these. The 2nd name change is just inexcusable. It's hard to take a project seriously when a random asshole on Twitter can provoke a name change like this. Leads me to believe that identity is more import…

Anthropic already was using "Clawd" branding as the name for the little pixelated orange Claude Code mascot. So they probably have a trademark even on that spelling.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by taraindara »

dom96 wrote: post #224
colecut wrote: post #201

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A very small percentage of people know how to set up a cronjob. They can now combine cronjobs and LLMs with a single human sentence. This is huge for normies. Not so much if you already had strong development skills. EDIT: But you are correct in the assessment that people who don't know better will use it to do simple things that could be done millions of times more efficiently.. I made a chatbot at my company where…

If it’s for normies then why is the open source hardish-to-use self-hosted version of this the thing that’s becoming popular? Or is there enough normies willing to jump through hoops for this?

Because the early adopters are the nerds that will discover how to exploit it, the popularity will make others want to use it, and the normies will take the easy route it gives them since self hosting is hard for them.

Different groups.

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Post by adastra22 »

lode wrote: post #84
lurking_swe wrote: post #78

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part of me sympathizes, but part of me also rolls my eyes. Am i the only one that’s configuring limits on spend and also alerts? Takes 2 seconds to configure a “project” in OpenAI or Claude and to scope an api key appropriately. Not doing so feels like asking for trouble.

That's what I did, which is why I abandoned my experiment this quickly. I'd find it hard to write such an article about how this is the next best thing since sliced bread without mentioning it spending so much money.

People using it have subscriptions.
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