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Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Post by namibj »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #190
DannyBee wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 8311 discord is a great source of technical info and help on using your own PON equipment of various sorts with providers

I've seen things about this, but I'm not convinced there's enough value in going to great lengths to replace that particular piece of equipment. In the case where the terminating equipment is a small box that exposes ethernet, with no routing or otherwise interfering the function of my own router, I think it's good enough. An argument could be made for the all-in-one devices, like saving some power. I get the geek fa…

For me the issue would be that they mandate the user traffic to be vlan tagged but their modem only exports 1000BASE-T so it's physically impossible for me to get the full gigabit of Internet they sold me.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Post by madduci »

ckbkr10 wrote: post #169
madduci wrote: post #38

I own a FTTH connection to Telekom since 2018, as the only provider in my street, allowed to install an internet connection (only glass fiber). Since then, I have always used my own device and I maintain a GitHub Snippet in how to connect OpenWRT modem (and by extension, any other modem that supports pppoe), rather than their Huawei SpeedPort crap or the more expensive Fritz Box). Link to Gist : https://gist.github.c…

Sorry to say but how you are framing things is simply not true anymore. You are not required to buy their "Glasfaser Modem 2" you can buy any ONT Modem. You are not required to use any of their equipment, they give you the data to connect via PPPOE directly. I bought a house with FTTH in 2023 and never used any Telekom hardware. Nobody forces you to use the peer DNS. The telekom DNS isn't complying to https://cuii.in…

Don't you have the small black glass fiber box that takes as input the fiber glass cable and outputs a rj45 port?

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Post by verall »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #50
madduci wrote: post #38

I own a FTTH connection to Telekom since 2018, as the only provider in my street, allowed to install an internet connection (only glass fiber). Since then, I have always used my own device and I maintain a GitHub Snippet in how to connect OpenWRT modem (and by extension, any other modem that supports pppoe), rather than their Huawei SpeedPort crap or the more expensive Fritz Box). Link to Gist : https://gist.github.c…

> providers install their own Glass Fiber modem It's the same in the US. The ISP fiber network falls inside their security boundary in my experience - you can't BYOD. They install a modem (these days often including an integrated router, switch, and AP) and you receive either ethernet or wifi from them. I think the only major change in that regard has been that coaxial cable providers here will often let you bring yo…

US ftth in my experience (att + gfiber) are ONT and router/wap as separate boxes and you are free to byo routerbox but have to use their ONT.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Post by chorizoking »

Commenting from my alt to avoid doxxing myself. Have spent over a decade in various 'large' streaming video companies, the ones you absolutely know about today.

DTAG is bar none the worst ISP to work with. Everything they do is politics, they may decide to 'forget' to increase the bandwidth on a PNI until you take a meeting with german regulators. Almost every other ISP views PNI as the best way to uphold customer satisfaction without breaking the bank over a more expensive IX and will happily add ports when needed, DTAG on the other hand often requires concessions and selective agreements with a lot of strings attached.

I don't think Germans realize just how much DTAG is holding the experience back for end users (given it's partially state-owned)

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Post by direwolf20 »

yayachiken wrote: post #198
direwolf20 wrote: post #176

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> peering just means that ... This also describes transit and describes getting internet service at home. I wouldn't say my cellphone peers with my provider. My cellphone is very much subordinate to my provider, not a peer. DT thinks it's important enough that it can extort everyone. A good policy for ISPs is to peer as many places and networks as possible, and carry traffic between your peers and customers, and cust…

> This also describes transit and describes getting internet service at home. Well no. Transit means that you use another AS (usually by a larger ISP) to get connectivity to a certain AS. And as for your internet service at home, unless you announce an AS, you are not peering with anyone.

Peering has everything to do with the physical interconnect and nothing to do with the ID numbers used to describe that interconnect, IMO.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Post by cardanome »

blkhawk wrote: post #59
anthonj wrote: post #5

Germany always surprise me with continuous contradiction in their society. Largest economy in eu but very unstable and riddled with wierd burocracy. Strongest worker protection, but very large amount of lobbysm. Most advanced railway system in eu, transformed into a joke by interdiction from said lobbies. You have to pay a "radio tax" to help funding press and keep it independent, but then fuck net neutrality. And I…

Some of these contradictions are fractal - i.e. contradictions all the way down :) For example the independent Radio and TV isn't that independent actually but in practice is. Partially this is because of the insecurities of the times these institutions were setup in making people in power unsure about true independence - so they wanted a control mechanism. The end result is an institution that is deeply coupled into…

It is independent in the sense of not being partial to any specific political party. Still the media is very biased towards the status quo and the state. For example you will not find any serious criticism of Israel in any public or private mainstream media in Germany.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Post by fph »

glitchc wrote: post #222
Cockbrand wrote: post #154

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Been there, done that. After a bit of back and forth, Telekom basically recommended that I go and use one of the big SMTP servers and stop bothering them. While I hated myself for doing it, I eventually switched to Gmail for peace of mind.

Unfortunately some inbound servers will block emails if the originating server does not match the From: address.

If you control the domain, you can use SPF to designate Google as an authorized sender for your domain.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Post by furst-blumier »

plagiarist wrote: post #226
pimeys wrote: post #219

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I mean, yes? But that's by sending a letter, or a fax. Email is not part of this...

This should have been updated decades ago to include email. Is it possible for any government to function properly?

The main issue is that who is supposed to implement it? The gov has 2 possibilities: hire a contractor, or do it themself. DIY has the issue that nobody wants to work for the gov because as any IT specialist you'd earn 1/3 or 1/4 of what you would earn in a private company. Stateworkers here cannot be fired. So you trade money for extreme "stability" (read: laziness). Hiring a contractor requires money they also don't see the necessity to spend. And that's how you end up in this situation. There are also other issues like no national wide implementation plan. Every state, every commune has to figure out and build stuff themself.

Re: Deutsche Telekom is throttling the internet

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Post by miki123211 »

pimeys wrote: post #219
myself248 wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a government requirement to be reachable by its citizens? That would seem to violate it.

I mean, yes? But that's by sending a letter, or a fax. Email is not part of this...

This is one of the things that E-Delivery (something which Europe is now implementing[1,2,3]) is going to fix.

It's sort of like email, but based on the XML stack (SOAP / WSDL / XML Crypto / XML Sig), with proper citizen authentication and cryptographically-signed proof of sending and delivery.

[1] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/spaces/DI... [2] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A... [3] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/spaces/DI...

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