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I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by alasr »

cortesoft wrote: post #5

I am really confused as to what happened here. The use of ‘disabled organization’ to refer to the author made it extra confusing. I think I kind of have an idea what the author was doing, but not really.

> I think I kind of have an idea what the author was doing, but not really.

Me neither; However, just like the rest I can only speculate (given the available information): I guess the following pieces provide a hint what's really going on here:

- "The quine is the quine" (one of the sub-headline of the article) and the meaning of the word "quine".

- Author's "scaffolding" tool which, once finished, had acquired the "knowledge"[1] how to add a CLAUDE.md baked instructions for a particular homemade framework (he's working on).

- Anthropic saying something like: no, stop; you cannot "copy"[1] Claude knowledge no matter how "non-serious" your scaffolding tool or your use-case is: as it might "shows", other Claude users, that there's a way to do similar things, maybe that time, for more "serious" tools.

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[1]. Excerpt from the Author's blog post: "I would love to see the face of that AI (Claude AI system backend) when it saw its own 'system prompt' language being echoed back to it (from Author's scaffolding tool: assuming it's complete and fully-functional at that time)."

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

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Post by olalonde »

renewiltord wrote: post #230
olalonde wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd probably do it like this: ask Claude to do a task, and when it fails, have it update its Claude.md so it doesn’t repeat the mistake. After a few iterations, once the Claude.md looks good, just copy-paste it into the scaffolding tool.

Right, so you see the part where you "ask Claude to do a task" and then "copy-paste it into the template"? He was automating that because he has some n tasks he wants it to do without damaging the prior tasks.

You can just clear the context or restart your Claude instance between tasks. e.g.:

  > do task 1
  ...task fails...
  > please update Claude.md so you don't make X mistake
  > /clear
  > do task 2
  ... task fails ...
  > please update Claude.md so you don't make Y mistake
  > /clear
  etc.
If you want a clean state between tasks you can just commit your Claude.md and `git reset --hard`.

I just don't get why you'd need have to a separate Claude that is solely responsible for updating Claude.md. Maybe they didn't want to bother with git?

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

#233

Post by pixl97 »

benjiro wrote: post #200
pixl97 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>if it's the real reason they got banned. I mean, what a country should do it put a law in effect. If you ban a user, the user can submit a request with their government issued ID and you must give an exact reason why they were banned. The company can keep this record in encrypted form for 10 years. Failure to give the exact reason will lead to a $100,000 fine for the first offense and increase from there up to suspe…

Companies will simply give some kind of standard answer, that is legally "cover our butts" and be done with it. Its like that cookie wall stuff, how much dark patterns are implemented. They followed the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law. To be honest, i can also see the point from the company side. Giving a honest answer can just anger people, to the point they sue. People are often not as rational as we a…

>Giving a honest answer can just anger people, to the point they sue.

Again, I'm kind of on a 'suck it dear company' attitude. The reason they ban you must align with the terms of service and must be backed up with data that is kept X amount of time.

Simply put, we've seen no shortage of individuals here on HN or other sites like Twitter that need to use social media to resolve whatever occurred because said company randomly banned an account under false pretenses.

This really matters when we are talking about giants like Google, or any other service in a near monopoly position.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

#234

Post by IgorPartola »

throwup238 wrote: post #117
bastard_op wrote: post #108

I've been doing something a lot like this, using a claude-desktop instance attached to my personal mcp server to spawn claude-code worker nodes for things, and for a month or two now it's been working great using the main desktop chat as a project manager of sorts. I even started paying for MAX plan as I've been using it effectively to write software now (I am NOT a developer). Lately it's gotten entirely flaky, wher…

Anthropic has been flying by the seat of their pants for a while now and it shows across the board. From the terminal flashing bug that’s been around for months to the lack of support to instabilities in Claude mobile and Code for the web (I get 10-20% message failure rates on the former and 5-10% on CC for web). They’re growing too fast and it’s bursting the seams of the company. If there’s ever a correction in the…

You are giving me images from The Bug Short where the guy goes to investigate mortgages and knocks on some random person’s door to ask about a house/mortgage just to learn that it belongs to a dog. Imagine finding out that Anthropic employs no humans at all. Just an AI that has fired everyone and been working on its own releases and press releases since.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

#235

Post by mattnewton »

fluoridation wrote: post #225
mattnewton wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they bought a claude subscription on a personal account and the error message said that they belongs to a "disabled organization" (probably leaking some implementation details).

That's the part I understand. It's the other term that I don't understand.

Then I’m confused about what is confusing you haha.

The absurd language is meant to highlight the absurdity they feel over the vague terms in their sparse communication with anthropic. It worked for me.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

#237

Post by fluoridation »

mattnewton wrote: post #235
fluoridation wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the part I understand. It's the other term that I don't understand.

Then I’m confused about what is confusing you haha. The absurd language is meant to highlight the absurdity they feel over the vague terms in their sparse communication with anthropic. It worked for me.

Because what is meant by "this organization has been disabled" is fairly obvious. The object in Anthropic's systems belonging to the class Organization has changed to the state Disabled, so the call cannot be executed. Anthropic itself is not an organization in this sense, nor is Google, so I would say that referring to them as "non-disabled organizations" is an equivocation fallacy. Besides that, I can't tell if it's a joke, if it's some kind of statement, or what is being communicated. To me it's just obtuseness for the sake of itself.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

#238

Post by quietsegfault »

fluoridation wrote: post #85
Aurornis wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Years ago I was involved in a service where we some times had to disable accounts for abusive behavior. I'm talking about obvious abusive behavior, akin to griefing other users. Every once in while someone would take it personally and go on a social media rampage. The one thing I learned from being on the other side of this is that if someone seems like an unreliable narrator, they probably are. They know the company…

"I'm glad this happened with Anthropic instead of Google, which provides Gemini, email, etc. or I would have been locked out of the actually important non-AI services as well." Non-disabled organization = the first party provider Disabled organization = me I don't know why they're using these weird euphemisms or ironic monikers, but that's what they mean.

He used “organization” because that’s what Anthropic called him, despite the fact he is a person and not an “organization”.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

#239

Post by renewiltord »

olalonde wrote: post #232
renewiltord wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, so you see the part where you "ask Claude to do a task" and then "copy-paste it into the template"? He was automating that because he has some n tasks he wants it to do without damaging the prior tasks.

You can just clear the context or restart your Claude instance between tasks. e.g.: > do task 1 ...task fails... > please update Claude.md so you don't make X mistake > /clear > do task 2 ... task fails ... > please update Claude.md so you don't make Y mistake > /clear etc. If you want a clean state between tasks you can just commit your Claude.md and `git reset --hard`. I just don't get why you'd need have to a sepa…

Presumably they didn't want to sit there and monitor Claude Code doing this for each of the 14 things they want done. Using a harness around Claude Code (or its SDK) is perfectly sane for this. I do it routinely. You just automate the entire process so that if you change APIs or you change the tasks, the harness can run and ensure that all of your sets are correctly re-done.

Sitting there and manually typing in "do thing 1; oh it failed? make it not fail. okay, now commit" is incredibly tedious.

Re: I was banned from Claude for scaffolding a Claude.md file?

#240

Post by tlogan »

Can someone explain what he was actually doing here?

Was the issue that he was reselling these Claude.md files, or that he was selling project setup or creation services to his clients?

Or maybe all scaffolding activity (back and forth) looked like automated usage?

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