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Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by Kim_Bruning »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #177
jauntywundrkind wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where did the WIPO come from SpicyLemonZest? Where huh where? Honk (It was shaped and driven by US and other big business interests.)

The “and” is doing a lot of work there! You have to respond to US aggression by targeting US interests - it completely defeats the point to do things that also hurt your other trade partners and domestic big businesses. Do European big businesses (or Japanese big businesses) not want anticircumvention laws?

Some large businesses probably do WANT anti-circumvention laws , but that doesn't mean it's good for them. Kids always want more sugar than is good for them too.

Those kinds of laws are great for incumbent moats, much less for innovation. Compare eg. China. (or early USA or Japanese industrialization)

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by komali2 »

alephnerd wrote: post #167
lysace wrote: post #166

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I don't use LLMs.

I was curious how you bang out these replies, with sources. Do you have some script or something to format your sources at the bottom of each comment? Personally I liked seeing a well sourced comment, I'm always too lazy to do it for mine.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by alephnerd »

komali2 wrote: post #232
alephnerd wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use LLMs.

I was curious how you bang out these replies, with sources. Do you have some script or something to format your sources at the bottom of each comment? Personally I liked seeing a well sourced comment, I'm always too lazy to do it for mine.

I used to be a staffer in this space and almost became an academic, but decided I like tech too much and fighting to spend half a decade doing a PhD in order to become an adjunct Econ or Policy professor at a state college would be a waste of my CS education. It's easy to cite sources on stuff when I've either studied with or under the people who are mentioned in these article, or been friends with their staffers.

> Do you have some script or something to format your sources

I do it by hand. It's fairly easy.

> I'm always too lazy to do it for mine

No worries. We've all been there.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by root_axis »

TrackerFF wrote: post #89

It is wildly fascinating to experience, in real time, how fragile the US system is. Trump really did show that the US is built on the assumption that people in power will behave, basically a honor system. Trump is stress testing every single aspect of the US. He's dousing the US with gasoline, and fumbling around with matches. The people around him, knee deep in gas, are too afraid to take the matches from him. In so…

Actually, I'd say it held up pretty well all things considered. This required decades of propaganda, years of state actor support, bankrolled and media managed by the richest man in the world, the complacency of the existing institutions, and most recently, submission by big tech and the the wider aristocracy.

It was not easy.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by bpodgursky »

piva00 wrote: post #194
bpodgursky wrote: post #88

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The EU is 450 million people! It's the size of the entire continent of south america! It was the richest part of the world for centuries! They absolutely should be able to function as an independent block with international trade for convenience and not survival.

Not even the US can stand against China by itself... The EU still has a large military industrial base getting revitalised as we speak, it didn't rot, it simply didn't need to pump out massive amounts of gear until this point. Poland, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Sweden, Finland, Czechia, etc. all have different kinds of weapons manufacturers. You can even include the UK, and Norway in the mix even though they aren…

No, the EU obviously did need to pump out massive amounts of gear, and failed to, and that's why four years into a war, Ukraine is still suffering under the yoke of a country with 1/10th the GDP of the EU.

If the EU had taken their responsibilities seriously given the MASSIVE THREAT next door, Ukraine would have had massive ordinance dumped on it in March 2022 and been free of Russians by Christmas.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by magicalhippo »

verzali wrote: post #219
magicalhippo wrote: post #209

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That would be falsifying the country of origin. The fact that the ship sailed from Greece or whatever doesn't change the fact the part was made in France say.

And so what? The rule of law hardly seems to matter any more.

Point taken...

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by magicalhippo »

mrtksn wrote: post #220
magicalhippo wrote: post #209

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That would be falsifying the country of origin. The fact that the ship sailed from Greece or whatever doesn't change the fact the part was made in France say.

Nope, you form a company in Italy and sell your goods you produce in France to that company. That Italian company ships it the same way you always did. Since Trump is erratic and there's no real trade deal between those countries and thus US doesn't have a case to claim that someone is breaking the rules of origin. Not to even mention that you can't put tariffs on individual EU countries anyway. That's EUs domain. If…

> Nope, you form a company in Italy and sell your goods you produce in France to that company.

Ah, that would indeed be entirely different. Not as quick to get going through.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by jhonof »

jenadine wrote: post #178
morkalork wrote: post #153

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If there are midterms.

I think this whole thing is part of a plot to cause war or some protests in order to be able to declare a state of emergency allowing him to delay or cancel elections. If not the midterm, at least the next presidential elections. Because it is the only way he can stay in power.

The US had elections during their civil war in the 1800s, They had elections during WW2, major wars cannot even stop US elections legally. Doesn't mean he won't try, but it's not something he can do AFAIK.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Post by illiac786 »

Hamuko wrote: post #207
illiac786 wrote: post #139

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How is it more robust? There is no EU army, is there?

There's no NATO army either.

Just check for “NATO troops”. That’s a term that exists and mean something.
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