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Post by InMice »

ninkendo wrote: post #196
InMice wrote: post #193

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I get bonkers annoyed using just two monitors with macos or windows. multi monitor management... nothing behaves how i want it to, apps never open where they should etc etc. I havent tried it on desktop linux enough to know if it's any better - maybe at least id assume have the most configuration control on linux. How do you do it? I always give up in frustration. 100% would keep the genelecs :)

I can only speak for the Cinnamon desktop environment on Linux Mint, but it’s very simple: - Apps always launch on the monitor your mouse cursor is on - Switching the focused window to the other monitor is Win+Shift+Arrow Keys So if I clicked to open an app, it’s on the monitor I’m already looking at. If I used a keyboard shortcut, win+shift+arrow is super easy and simple. The fact that it’s a stupid simple rule mean…

Thanks Im going to try it

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Post by EnPissant »

someguyiguess wrote: post #197
EnPissant wrote: post #186

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Not OP, but I have 2 8020D + a subwoofer. If I had to do it all over again I would have 2 8030C and no subwoofer.

Why? Just out of curiosity. Is it that you don’t need that much low end for the media you’re usually playing through your monitors or do the 8030Cs have enough low end to eliminate the need for a separate woofer? I’ve been debating getting genelecs for a few years now but the price jump from something like JBLs or Yamahas is so huge that I can’t justify it. At least not on my current budget.

I currently have the 8020D + 7040A. It's pretty much perfect sound with room correction applied, but the 7040A is kind of big and ugly. I'd be willing to give up some low-end to simplify the setup. Also the sub performs the crossover, so it's a lot of cords: 2 cords for DAC -> Sub, and 2 cords for sub -> L/R. And these cords have to be really long for when I raise my desk because the sub has to go on the floor.

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Post by compounding_it »

tra3 wrote: post #228
compounding_it wrote: post #209

I’ve been using a single 24 inch 1080p benq usb c monitor after realizing 4k 27 inch scaling is just terrible and 5k 27 inch is just too pricey. It’s a budget monitor but it’s surprising what 140$ can get you these days cause the quality of the panel is really good. It supports daisy chaining so I can add another monitor to my m1 air (which I can’t otherwise I think). If it was 4k 24 inch I’d buy two as I find that s…

I didn't know you could do multimonitor setup with m1 air. Can you share what your setup is?

https://youtu.be/pcz0R6eEWNA?t=345

I think it's called Displaylink. yet to try it with this particular benq but I know it can be done. The total output pixels are limited though so I doubt what the limitation of the Air is. but 2 24 inch 1080p should be doable.

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by compounding_it »

nja wrote: post #221
compounding_it wrote: post #209

I’ve been using a single 24 inch 1080p benq usb c monitor after realizing 4k 27 inch scaling is just terrible and 5k 27 inch is just too pricey. It’s a budget monitor but it’s surprising what 140$ can get you these days cause the quality of the panel is really good. It supports daisy chaining so I can add another monitor to my m1 air (which I can’t otherwise I think). If it was 4k 24 inch I’d buy two as I find that s…

For some reason nobody makes 2K 24"s anymore -- that was my sweet spot. But now to get the pixel density you have to go way bigger :/ dreading the day the old monitors I have cease working. I like the 24" size but 1080 is just so annoying. I was using 2048x1156 20" monitors back in 2010 and they had better density!

we have become used to retina displays these days so 1080p 24 inch looks 'pixelated'. I sit about 18 inches from the monitor and it looks okay. I find this distance and size most comfortable for me. The 27 inch 4k was too big for my setup and the scaled 2560x1440 is something I would not recommend (was warned about it but didn't listen :P).

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Post by gffrd »

zuminator wrote: post #230
gffrd wrote: post #60

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6016 x 3384. Dell monitor is twice the surface area with 3/4 the pixels … or in reverse: Apple display is half the size with 30% more pixels. (edit: corrected dell pixel %)

What is going on here? Why is everyone in this thread using 'pixels" to mean ppi? It seems unnecessarily confusing or even misleading. I mean blatantly a 6K monitor has more pixels than a 5K or 4K one, regardless of the pixel density.

Yeah, nobody’s saying a 5k monitor has more pixels than a 6k.

I think what people are trying to communicate, but struggling to, is that high pixel count on a huge display can be deceptive.

I think grandparent was trying to say “comparing a low-poi display to a high-ppi display is not a direct comparison.”

Re: Dell UltraSharp 52 Thunderbolt Hub Monitor

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Post by ninkendo »

sulam wrote: post #23

I have a smaller version of this and it's pretty good as a display. I'm somewhat disappointed with it as a hub/KVM. It's better than having to swap cables, but just barely. It can't handle any high bandwidth USB devices I've tried (Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, a DSLR via capture card DSLR and a Logitech webcam). The downstream USB strangely isn't even sending down a keyboard and mouse to a PC, I ended up having to get sep…

Yeah… Not sure of your model (I have the U4025QW), but mine is so close to perfect as a KVM between a Mac and 2 PC’s, if only the KVM had one more USB output port.

It takes 3 video inputs, but only 1 dedicated USB output. But oh, one of the video inputs is really Thunderbolt, so you get USB over the same cable and it works… but only if your machine supports this (for many laptops this is fine.)

But that’s 2 machines max in the KVM, while the monitor has 3 selectable inputs…

It would have been nicer if they could’ve added one more USB output, so you could have KVM match the display input for 3 machines with a single toggle.

(I have a Mac, a work desktop, and a gaming desktop, and I can toggle between the Mac (thunderbolt) and one of the PC’s, and the kvm input will follow the display’s. But I have to pick which PC I want to plug the downstream USB cable into… so I bought a little $15 USB A/B switch to help. So Mac keyboard always works, but when switching between gaming PC (hdmi) and work PC (DP) I just have to remember to toggle the A/B switch along with it to make the keyboard go to the right host.)

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Post by dworks »

thfuran wrote: post #223
dworks wrote: post #161

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I've recently gone from 60hz to 240hz to 480hz. Refresh rate in games is not just about what it looks like. It completely changes game mechanics, like movement, recoil etc. It is such a big difference between 60hz and 240hz that you're not really playing the same game. There are things you can do at 240hz that are impossible at 60hz. At 480hz, there's also so much more time to react, so you really don't need fast ref…

So much more time? The difference in frame time between 480 hz and 240 is 2 ms.

Right, that should be imperceptible. The 240hz monitor was also 15" while the 480hz monitor is 27". I'm sure that contributes as well. My subjective experience is that I now just have a lot of more time to react.

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Post by nine_k »

maest wrote: post #192
madmod wrote: post #157

I have 3 27" 5k monitors in portrait and a 32" 4k horizontal above those. It is all mounted with vesa cheeseplates to manfrotto magic arms on t slot aluminum attached to a C stand with manfrotto super clamps. I also have two genelec studio monitors which sound amazing. All of that cost less than this one monitor.

All the brand naming makes this read like something from American Psycho.

The brand names are there, I assume, to show that it's not some cheapskate setup jerry-rigged from salvaged parts. Because even then it's still less expensive that the giant Dell monitor.

I frankly don't understand the point of such monitors. If they are placed reasonably near, they don't fit human FOV well, and the periphery is seen distorted. If they are far enough away, the pixel pitch goes well past the angular resolution of the eye.

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Post by FireBeyond »

madmod wrote: post #157

I have 3 27" 5k monitors in portrait and a 32" 4k horizontal above those. It is all mounted with vesa cheeseplates to manfrotto magic arms on t slot aluminum attached to a C stand with manfrotto super clamps. I also have two genelec studio monitors which sound amazing. All of that cost less than this one monitor.

Not for nothing but 6K HDR @ 120Hz is likely a large part of the cost of this monitor.

I don't know if I'd put it on my desk, I got somewhat used to my setup - I had 2x4K 27" 144Hz monitors with very thin bezels (LG or Asus?) that I then traded in when I got a ProDisplay XDR. I do wish for higher refresh, and maybe more screen size.

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madmod wrote: post #157

I have 3 27" 5k monitors in portrait and a 32" 4k horizontal above those. It is all mounted with vesa cheeseplates to manfrotto magic arms on t slot aluminum attached to a C stand with manfrotto super clamps. I also have two genelec studio monitors which sound amazing. All of that cost less than this one monitor.

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