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Coal generation production in China did decline in 2025 vs 2024 - but that was the first year for it to happen.
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That's utterly wrong. Renewable installs in China are vastly outpacing nuclear installs.
Photos capture the breathtaking scale of China's wind and solar buildout
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Re: Photos capture the breathtaking scale of China's wind and solar buildout
#232It genuinely makes me so sad to see the US not doing the same. Having grown up to the constant beat of “energy independence” as the core goal of a party it seemed obvious that the nearly limitless energy that rains down from the sky would be the answer. But instead we’ve kept choosing the option which requires devastating our, and other’s around the world, community. That’s not to exclude the harsh reality of mining…
Have you driven around anywhere rural lately? The US is doing a ton of renewables development.
China is also building unfathomable amount of coal plants as well.
Re: Photos capture the breathtaking scale of China's wind and solar buildout
#233It genuinely makes me so sad to see the US not doing the same. Having grown up to the constant beat of “energy independence” as the core goal of a party it seemed obvious that the nearly limitless energy that rains down from the sky would be the answer. But instead we’ve kept choosing the option which requires devastating our, and other’s around the world, community. That’s not to exclude the harsh reality of mining…
The US invented fracking. Arguably the US is energy independent. It has Texas, Canada and Venezuela. They never did discover any large oilfields in China despite decades of frantically searching for it.
Alaska
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In the UK, it's expensive, and it's not the technology, it's everything else. I don't see how that can improve unless the installation costs come down, and I don't know how that could/would happen. I had solar installed last year, at the end of the summer, it cost roughly £14,000 for a system that can produce 6.51kWp and with 12kWh of battery storage (about 10kWh usable). The 465W all-black panels (14 of them) I had…
You were ripped off.
Absolutely. A local company is currently advertising 12 470w panels, 10kwh storage for £7695 fully installed with additional pannels fully installed for £200 each. /r/uksolar is a great resource for comparing quotes.
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It's kind of bizarre to see the far right and far left circle to the same misguided big oil conclusions, although for different reasons. The right doesn't want their traditional oil/coal industries threatened. The left is kind of... just against the continued growth of technology/industry/humanity.
Can you point at criticism from the left? I haven’t noticed it.
Mostly just saying the sentiment I've seen on reddit comments or X posts, stuff like this:
https://x.com/duncancampbell/status/1647109450438955008
I'm not saying the idea is institutionalized by the democrats, but I think musk/tesla hatred is kinda driving it
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I was just about to make precisely the same comment. The fear, uncertainty, and doubt about renewables here is ridiculous, and I expected better. I suppose everyone watched too much Landman . China is rocketing ahead in every domain possible, from resource and financial independence, to infrastructure in terms of high-speed rail, bridges, roads, advanced fission reactors and bleeding-edge fusion research. Heavy indus…
With China's huge resources both natural and human it's only expected that China will again reclaim its position as the leading country in science, technology, production and generally everything. If you assume that .5% of population are "einsteins" then China has 7.5m einsteins who are now able to access universities and advance sciences whether it's AI or solar power or self driving cars. There's no doubt about the…
Especially since the US is not going to have any allies anymore soon.
Re: Photos capture the breathtaking scale of China's wind and solar buildout
#237That looks significantly more like a long-term energy strategy than grabbing oil from Venezuela and Greenland.
If you think there is oil in Greenland I think you should not contribute to these types of discussion for lack of knowledge on the topic.
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Oil and gas have used, between drilling and refining, over 7 million acres of land in just the US. Yes, it provides more electricity, but at the cost of destroying the entire planet's biosphere, global warming, etc. Current US estimates for solar land usage are 500,000 acres. The land use arguments are bunk. Anyone who complains is repeating oil and gas propaganda.
Around me, conservatives started a grassroots "save the whales" campaign to block wind. Conservatives, protesting on the street to save the whales. Talk about a sight to see.
Faux environmentalism is the new climate denialism. https://www.desmog.com/2025/08/27/ai-slop-websites-are-publi...
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Maybe his "we" is more USA-centric than your "we". It happens all the time...
My "We" is Australia and UK-centric. People have home solar, but it's hardly widespread. It's still a "fancy" thing to have.
~39% of Australian homes have solar as of 2025. Seems pretty widespread