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European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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There is some EUPL software available here: https://interoperable-europe.ec.europa.eu/

Where exactly? I really see nothing that qualifies as open source there. Just text.

There's also this GitLab instance: https://code.europa.eu/

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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Is it? If you're not interested in limited liability it's 85 euros to file for a company. If you do want limited liability, you have to visit a notary to found, but even that's only like 500 euros. Sure, you have to do your taxes every year and that's annoying, but it's not _that_ hard.

> you have to visit a notary to found Why is that even necessary in the first place? Thats what people hate about bureaucracy. Why can't we just submit a form somewhere from home and someone looks over it from a queue. In the meantime you are allowed to start your business already. Bad process here. No process is 100% times better. An async one with forgiveness is getting you 80% there.

What's stopping you from just running your business while waiting before the notary has time for you?

It's ultimately the same thing; if in your async queue system your application was denied you'd still be liable.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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It didn't start when it was people losing their jobs on the right? Brandon Eich's political donation comes to mind.

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Next you're going to tell us that religious fundamentalism isn't mostly a right-wing feature either.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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Idk, europeans saying thing like "It's hard to compete with TooBigTech when they are being anti-competitive" implying EU companies are not anti-competitive and EU government is not extremely protectionist.

> europeans saying thing like Where did I say I was European? > implying EU companies are not anti-competitive and EU government is not extremely protectionist Anti-competitive behaviours from TooBigTech are well documented, and they are regularly fined for that. I'm sure it happens from EU companies, but it has less impact given that the software industry is almost entirely dominated by US companies. Now I can't rem…

I mean, EU has some de-facto BigTech giants like SAP which are on same anti-competitive side. It just happened that US was quicker and more successful in various areas including software.

EU tactics on protectionism is creating legislative framework to apply tariffs to competing imports(i.e. import taxes and quotas(TARIC, etc), ecology-related fees, subsidies for local industries, restricting imports of goods for private citizens by postal limits and others)

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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Finland (where Linux comes from) is in the EU. There are also a few European linux distributions you may have heard of: e.g. Debian, SUSE, Ubuntu (UK), Mandrake/Mandriva/Mageia, Knoppix, etc.

> Ubuntu (UK) This is an EU initiative, Ubuntu probably isn't included.

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Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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American public money funded most of the tech that the whole Europe is depending on and extracting trillions of dollars value. Your American using Italian uni stuff is nonsense.

So the argument is basically: because taxes, and only taxes, paid for something somewhere, it should be free for everybody everywhere? Ah wait, you're somebody else. Why the somewhat unhinged attack on Europe? Because Europe is getting US tech for free?

Indeed, it appears they are upset that "the whole Europe is depending on and extracting trillions of dollars value" from American open source spend in some way.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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It didn't start when it was people losing their jobs on the right? Brandon Eich's political donation comes to mind.

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Not as wild of a claim as you might think, as opposition to gay marriage falls starkly along political lines in the US. If you are a republican and you support gay marriage, you are solidly in the minority (41%). 12% of democrats oppose it.

> In May 2025, a record-high 88% of Democrats supported same-sex marriage, support from independents stood at 76%, while Republican support dipped back down to 41%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_of_same-sex_mar...

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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I see it as English-centric, rather than US-centric. That differentiation isn't necessary in most (all?) languages. Adopting the word "gratis" when the speaker means "at no monetary cost" also helps clarify things.

Would it be more correct to say it doesn’t necessarily mean free as in beer? Someone can give you a free beer and a complimentary license to manufacture and distribute that same beer, and even make changes to the recipe.

> Would it be more correct to say it doesn’t necessarily mean free as in beer

Yes, I believe so.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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Things like LiMux, I guess

Was that really a fork, or just a distribution with all the configs and packages that Munich wanted and needed?

I don't know details, but my guess is was more the latter.

The problem is that instead of having people assigned to working with Debian to make Debian useful in a government setting, they just did their own fork/distribution. Yes, the former involves a lot of Debian politics and isn't as fast because other Debian members might insist on proper/more generic solutions.

Re: European Commission issues call for evidence on open source

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post #225

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American public money funded most of the tech that the whole Europe is depending on and extracting trillions of dollars value. Your American using Italian uni stuff is nonsense.

So the argument is basically: because taxes, and only taxes, paid for something somewhere, it should be free for everybody everywhere? Ah wait, you're somebody else. Why the somewhat unhinged attack on Europe? Because Europe is getting US tech for free?

30 years ago, one of the things we were all naively hoping for was that a globally connected network would help to reduce the tribalism, obsolete these "American money" and "European bits" and "Chinese protocols" ideas and stop all the cross-border fighting over what's mine and what's yours. When a piece of software has contributors from 50 countries, how could it "belong" to one country? Obviously we are in an even worse spot, global cooperation wise, now than we were in the 90s.
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