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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Tomato tomata

It is a massive difference of wording. Saying 'MAGA' suggests a large political movement/politicians committed a murder.

A consequence of that large political movement and its leaders is that numerous people have been murdered. MAGA can't wash its hands of the consequences of its beliefs and actions.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Hate to break it to you, but people just simply dont care as much as you think they do. We have the right to own firearms for the purposes of protecting us against tyrany, but thats pointless when we cant even realize tyrany right outside our door.

This shows how flawed the idea is that individual gun ownership protects people from a rogue government. Acting alone with a firearm does not stop tyranny. It only leads to prison or worse. Real resistance to authoritarianism has never come from isolated individuals using violence. It requires organized collective action where people stand together and refuse to comply. History shows that meaningful resistance often…

> It requires organized collective action where people stand together and refuse to comply.

... armed with guns and prepared to use violence.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Quite the opposite actually. Democrats have been so complacent with the proto-fascists for so long, that republicans will now justify murdering a mother in broad daylight, filmed under 3 angles clearly showing she is fearing for her life. The solution to fascism is not compromise and weakness.

We live in different worlds, friend. Please know there are people across the aisle that view it differently. When things calm down, talk with them and learn. Nobody wins when we insist the world is only as we alone view it.

I talked to these people minutes ago, on the thread about the murder. Trumpists are finding ways to rationalize this assassination. Just like they did Jan 6, the bombings of fishing boats near Venezuela, the other exactions ICE committed, Trump being Epstein's closest friend, etc.

Then I listened to the Vice President claiming she was an "unhinged left-wing lunatic", that she had been radicalized and that she was trying to hurt the ICE agent, and thus she deserved to be shot. A complete, abject lie trying to justify this murder, when everyone saw in the videos she was clearly trying to escape, and no agent was on her path.

EDIT: looking at your comment history, it seems like you are trying to justify her assassination too. We are not friends, no friend of mine attempts to rationalize away the murder of innocents by masked brownshirts. I hope you can escape this death cult sometimes soon, then maybe we could find common ground.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Sounds like, "What kind of American are you?" from the Jesse Plemmons character in the Alex Garland Civil War movie. Shouldn't the fact that ICE shot a woman trying to leave the scene be enough?

You see what you want to see, which is kinda revealing if you ask me. No. It is not enough. Reasonable person would be unlikely to find themselves in that position, which begs a simple question: What was her reason for being there? If you can answer that, we can start having a conversation. Until then, she is not some rando at the wrong place at the wrong time.

I fundamentally disagree that ICE deserves that presumption. They have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be unreasonable people who want to hurt others. I'm sure there's a story they'll tell about why it was totally legal to shoot her, but they're murderers and you're supporting murderers until they prove that there was she was doing something so terrible they had no choice.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Video analysis is depressing: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis...

I wonder what conclusion the FBI's investigation will come to because it sure doesn't look good for ICE to me. Best case, those two agents get sentenced to life for murder but the damage is done and a life taken. If the officer fired two shots and she died at the scene then it seems reasonable to me the bullets didn't go through the windshield and, instead, went through her rolled down window while she was turning aw…

This administration’s FBI is run by podcasters and completely incompetent.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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If you install 100 apps on your phone, and 50% are participating in the kind of ad network that this data is sourced form, and 10% of the apps convince you to enable location services either by having a plausible need for it or by dark patterns or by your carelessness, that means there are still multiple sources where this information gets out. The math is on the trackers' side, not the users'.

>If you install 100 apps on your phone Why do you need 100 apps? Moreover why do you need 100 apps that have location permissions? Both android and ios makes it easy to tell which apps have location permissions. The list should be a very small list, and limited to "while using app". >and 10% of the apps convince you to enable location services either by having a plausible need for it or by dark patterns or by your ca…

> Why do you need 100 apps?

You don't. But a high percentage of the population will install apps for the sake they've been offered to install it.

I use eBay, I get bombarded by eBay telling me to install their app for 10% off. I use Gmail for work, if I don't use their app, I have the search engine to tell me to use their app. Facebook is an app, WhatsApp is an app too. Bejeweled Deluxe is an another app and $Reality_TV_show wants you to install their app. Your local supermarket has an app to give you % off your shopping list and probably not to far off in the future oxygen will be an app.

Some venue for a ticket for that odd one-off gig requires an app and every single restaurant order at the table has different app. You're then forced to install the app to use your Dishwasher, Fridge, TV, WiFi Router. I bought a new heater as my old one broke this winter and if I desire to configure WiFi for it, you guessed it I have to install an app.

And that's how you you end up with 100 of apps that are never really used, leaking information, spying on you and never deleted because people don't. I bought Christmas presents and I was unable to track delivery information without installing an app, I had forgotten about that until now. Thanks for reminding me you, can watch me delete it. That again is how you end up with apps.

We use discord at work and when I walk past co-workers screens they are within multiple of dead discord servers. They never leave and it's not just discord I've seen people idling in dead channels on IRC. I just question why and walk away as if the server is dead, I leave.

Hanging on to things that are never needed again is what we are best at it seems. FOMO?

> 1 minute to check the location permissions list.

Most users are not you and I, they don't know about permissions. They just want to accomplish what they set out to do. And if you do remove that permission; that app refuses to co-operate frustrating the user, nagging them until they do re-enable that permission.

It's now rather than how it used to be. Smart humans using a dumb phones, the now is dumb humans being used by smart phones.

* With sympathy to those who are actually mute/non-verbal, that must suck.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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... and has an IMEI identifier.

Yes, and that's usually directly traceable to who the phone was first sold to.

Or to the subscriber who last registered it to a network with a SIM, even though the SIM is not there now.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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> What does this have to do with gp's claim about cycle of reprisals by both parties? It can be simultaneously possible to admit that the leader of one party is more sane than the other, and to observe that both parties are engaging in cycles of retaliation when they get in power, and that egging on even more retaliation is going to make the situation worse. I think the reason we are in the situation we are in now is…

>I think the reason we are in the situation we are in now is that the last administration wasn't nearly retaliatory _enough_ after J6 Jailing Hitler sure stopped his movement in its tracks! Or maybe we should have gone even further and set a precedent for to jail people for decades for having "dangerous" political opinions?

While I agree that the question of "are we jailing this person for their political opinions" gets into skeevy areas, if we refuse to enforce laws just because elections and politics are involved we might as well not have any laws that involve elections and politics (and I don't think "lawlessness starts at the top" is a recipe for a healthy society).
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