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Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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Something’s wrong when a key piece of foundational web tech is staring down unsustainability. Tailwind is almost ubiquitous these days. It needs to continue to exist.

Small businesses being eaten by AI is a net negative, because they’re in a unique position whereby they need to actually have to listen to customers vs just optimizing for a rando middle manger’s promotion in BigTech.

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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You should learn to vote for UBI?

Agreed, it's one of the only ways forward I can think of while still maintaining markets in some part of the economy...that is, if you care about the human condition at all. Plenty of these tech leaders seem to want to replace humanity though, so this will be an uphill battle.

It's a nice fantasy but completely contrary to human nature.

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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Sadly, selling pre-made components and templates was never a sound business model, especially in the wake of AI. One thing I learned being on HN for so long and launching my own products is that a product is not a business . Don't conflate the two, at your peril. Lots of people make great products but actually turning that into a business is fundamentally a different skill. It seems like Tailwind grew too fast, havin…

Tailwind had several times more than 2M / ARR at their peak.

you have 2 comments in total and a super popular name :-(

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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> But the reality is that 75% of the people on our engineering team lost their jobs here yesterday because of the brutal impact AI has had on our business. Adam is simply trying to navigate this new reality, and he's being honest, so there's no need to criticize him.

>and he's being honest oh, come the fuck on. it's "AI made us do it" drivel that companies began to justify layoffs with in 2023 (!!!). Tailwind is just another FOTM frontend thing. I saw dozens of them come, gain some popularity, then abruptly disappear once the marketing budget ran out.

He mentions that tailwind is more popular than ever before but their revenue is down 80% so unless he’s lying about that it makes sense rather than tailwind going out of style.

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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It's not that people care about quality, but that people expect things to "just work". Regarding the point about accessibility, there are a ton of little details that must be explicitly written into the HTML that aren't necessarily the default behavior. Some common features of CSS and JS can break accessibility too. None of this code would obvious to an LLM, or even human devs, but it's still what's expected. Without…

I use the web every day as a blind user with a screenreader. I would 100% of the time prefer to encounter the median website written by Opus 4.5 than the median website written by a human developer in terms of accessibility!

That's really interesting. Are you speaking from experience with websites where you know who authored them or from seeing code written by humans and Opus 4.5 respectively?

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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As a fellow business owner, I’ll always feel bad when business owners need to make these types of decisions. I bought Tailwind UI - I always thought it was a critically bad business decision from their end to keep giving me additional new stuff for free. It seemed to me that it should have been a subscription. However, knowing nothing about the inside of their business, I have no idea how that would have affected the…

He goes into detail the motivation/decision to do lifetime pricing vs subscription pricing here: https://hackersincorporated.com/episodes/lifetime-pricing-is...

The idea is that subscription businesses have churn, and if you can capture the lifetime value of a customer with your one time price, there isn't any difference (other than people feeling grateful when you add new content for "free").

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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unfortunately, it doesn't seems like tech bro gets displaced by other tech bros at all and more like corporates running costly ephemeral branding as tech bro by abusing other tech bros works .

What's the difference between tech bros and corporates? Isn't being a tech bro almost by definition about getting to the point where your can sell out your company and your principles?

10 biggest companies (by value) in the world ... all tech companies except number 9 on the list Saudi Aramco.

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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When you start making your open source project worse for your users because you are not making enough out of it I'll choose to use something else. There's a point where it's too much and it just feels like a trojan horse when later you stop caring for your free users.

I think the part you're missing here is that the author here is under no requirement to accept changes to their project and everyone else is welcome to fork it if they disagree with choices made by the author. The author did not in fact, make the project worse, all they did was not accept a change, and that is entirely different than making it worse. Even those who stood to benefit from the change have not received a…

> all they did was not accept a change,

A change to make the documentation easier for LLM scrapers to inhale.

What would be the point? It would, in no way, improve anything. Probably not even for LLMs.

I am astounded the gentleman responded at all. I think all the talk of money (whilst urgent and catastrophic) is a red herring

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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It is "progress" when tech bros displace traditional workers, but it is "heartbreaking" when a tech bro gets displaced by other tech bros. Whats the 2026 version of "you should learn to code" ?

"You should learn how to vibecode and ship whatever works enough, as fast as possible, to get bought for a wildly disconnected from fundamentals valuation." This may sound flippant, or low quality, but it I assure that it is not intended to be. It is derived from observations of the current tech macro. Quality does not appear to matter, ethics do not appear to matter, sustainability and engineering rigor do not appea…

It satisfies the dream of a business with no people. As Doctorow illustrates it, like plugging the Fisher-Price steering wheel into the drive train of the business.
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