I absolutely can't deal with sync conflicts, they are confusing and infuriating.
So I don't use any form of automatic cloud sync, anywhere. Once you accidentally overwrite a file with an older version open on another system, its hard to go back to that nonsense
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Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
People are locked in. It's not easy to switch to another product. Even if someone is willing the pay the price for another system and pay to have the data moved and apps repurchased, they now have to learn a new OS.
But that’s the thing, why is it this way? Driving a Hyundai or a Toyota you wouldn’t notice the difference, but learning a new OS is so hard that people don’t do it. I wish the ergonomics would be more standard so switching costs aren’t so high.
Because it benefits the tech companies to make their user interface different enough to make it difficult to relearn another one. There are no official standards like there are for the vehicle user interface.
Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
But that’s the thing, why is it this way? Driving a Hyundai or a Toyota you wouldn’t notice the difference, but learning a new OS is so hard that people don’t do it. I wish the ergonomics would be more standard so switching costs aren’t so high.
Because it benefits the tech companies to make their user interface different enough to make it difficult to relearn another one. There are no official standards like there are for the vehicle user interface.
Vehicles don’t have an official standard, just a de facto one.
If someone invented a superior way to control a vehicle everyone else would adopt it. But things have settled I guess.
I guess the set of inputs to a car is smaller than a computer..
Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files
#234Windows is not for doing serious stuff anymore, the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC (if you turn off all the nags, it's pretty decent). I work on a Mac, I run servers on Linux, I game on Windows.
How many games do you use on Windows that you can not use on Linux?
For me the last one was Blade and Soul, and in the end, I dropped it rather than put up with it.
Even live-service games are less of a hassle than they used to be. BDO works well, Genshin works with occasionally having to update Proton, and the new shiny Where Winds Meet worked for me from the first day (never even tried it on Windows :P)
I think in the last 6 months, I've dual-booted for pretty much these things:
* To install a new motherboard's RGB-tweak utility because it doesn't work right in OpenRGB yet. Ran it once to pick settings, then it seemed to write to NVRAM since it's been stuck that way now.
* To use ham radio programming software that was clearly written by a single hobbyist and I didn't expect to work on anything but happy-path Windows systems.
* To try a weird specialty keyboard with a nonstandard card-reader (most of them just appear as normal HID keyboards, this one was a custom USB endpoint which apparently emulated a serial device with the right software. In the end, it didn't work well in Windows either-- the software was apparently mostly Win7-and-below.
* To deal with an old scanner that the vendor provides a Linux software package for, but only as a binary .deb that didn't seem to work well on Void. (Problem solved by picking up a used scanner explicitly supported by SANE for $10 at the Goodwill)
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#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
This take is weird. Git and OneDrive in a sense both are version control systems. What do you think would happen if you created a Git repository and a SVN repository in the same folder, then proceeded to add files from .git to SVN and let SVN manipulate them? It is not OneDrive's fault that your students don't understand version control.
IMO, instruction should have had the users create a "src" directory under their profile/home directory to use for their repositories, and expressly mention the why's. That said, the fact that OneDrive slurps up Documents, etc. by default instead of an explicit directory, is part of the problem.
Even worse. It doesn't slurp up the documents folder in your home directory. If you click on documents via explorer (or a file selection dialog), or go to c:\users\myusername\documents, you will arrive at different folders.
Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files
#236Windows is not for doing serious stuff anymore, the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC (if you turn off all the nags, it's pretty decent). I work on a Mac, I run servers on Linux, I game on Windows.
> the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC even this has gone away for me, exited first with Bazzite and am now on CachyOS. Still got a debloated Windows11 on a different SSD for when friends want to play games with kernel-level anticheat or other bs. feels good to be free of Microsoft. work on a Mac, game on Linux, phones run Android.
My migration is pending more users reporting good results with nVidia GPUs.
But the decision has been made and for my own convenience I've got a new nvme for OS.
Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tbh I don't understand why 'Microsoft thinks that users are not' maybe because my kids are not logged in to onedrive yet. Do I understand correctly that MS tricks the users somehow to synchronize folders with cloud?
Kind of... you now have to sign into windows with a Microsoft Account, that has a starting (free) tier OneDrive, that will "easily" enable and start operations against directories you may not recognize are syncing, and even if disabled may change with automatic forced updates... it will then start nagging you to create a paid account for more storage, etc... otherwise tie you into Office products, where it starts sav…
isn't there some powershell/magic command to disable sync at all? or you are forced to sync one directory?
Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files
#238OneDrive quietly replaces C:\Users\root\Desktop with C:\Users\root\OneDrive\Desktop. No warning, just hijacks your folder structure. Good luck figuring out where your files actually went.
Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files
#239I agree with most of the comments posted below. Dual instances of OneDrive in my folder view and failure to complete sync while files go missing although I can see them in Word documents which indicate their exact location. This is trash!!