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Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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> He’s a proper democrat. The same Starmer who's cancelled local elections? Who's not looked at the polls and thought maybe it's time to go, because the demos clearly don't want me? The same Starmer who said no rise in NI in the manifesto, only to increase NI? The same Starmer who raised the threshold of votes required for an MP from within the Labour party to challenge his leadership? He's no proper democrat. People…

> The same Starmer who's cancelled local elections? False: https://fullfact.org/online/council-elections-war-cancelled/ > Who's not looked at the polls and thought maybe it's time to go, because the demos clearly don't want me? You seem to have missed the "did actually win power" and "this is how democracy works in the UK" parts. I agree he should go, but I could say that about all of the UK politicians, they're all…

So per your source, he did cancel local elections at a time where it is politically favorable for him to do so?

Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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Legal question for the Tor team (disclaimer, I love Tor and use it in BrowserBox): - Does Tor need an OFAC license to supply to Russian and Iranian (and other sanctioned entities)? What's your approach to stay compliant and globally helpful? I know 50% of your funding comes from US government (or did a few years back, still?), does this give you extra pathways to engage those regions? I'm wondering because the system…

Check out their blog for their financial report, 50% is way too much

Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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Similar to how CIA has a technology fund that gave money to Signal; because they use it?

> because they use it? My hunch is because they have a backdoor in it.

They are using the backdoor they bought and paid for in both Signal and Tor.

Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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What are people saying that gets them arrested? This important but as-yet-unanswered question is crucial to evaluating the severity of the UK's censorship regime.

Probably the most high-profile case was the Lucy Connolly one, where she posted: > "Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it” For additional context (which was relevant during the…

So explicitly calling for violence, not just "posting a political opinion" like so many people are claiming.

Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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You can explain it away all you want. Those sources are garbage. They pay for stories, don't confirm sources, or do anything else required of journalism. I get you may be GenZ and have been fed garbage soup your whole life about how "all news bad", but fyi there are still some publications with journalistic standards. You might as well add the National Enquirer from the US. Your sources are such sensationalist rags t…

Firstly, IB Times is one of the biggest news sources in existence. They own Newsweek. They do not pay for stories, and they do confirm sources, as they are an institutional capitalized outlet operating out of the UK (the friendliest jurisdiction for libel litigation in the world) that does not want to be sued out of existence. They are not a politicized outlet and generally swing left-wing, in contrast to some of the…

Maybe next time just look one one more click into the ownership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBT_Media

IBT Media was owned by the parent company of Newsweek for 5 years 2013-2018.

It is now owned by followers of this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jang

So... Yeah.

Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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Firstly, IB Times is one of the biggest news sources in existence. They own Newsweek. They do not pay for stories, and they do confirm sources, as they are an institutional capitalized outlet operating out of the UK (the friendliest jurisdiction for libel litigation in the world) that does not want to be sued out of existence. They are not a politicized outlet and generally swing left-wing, in contrast to some of the…

Maybe next time just look one one more click into the ownership. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBT_Media IBT Media was owned by the parent company of Newsweek for 5 years 2013-2018. It is now owned by followers of this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jang So... Yeah.

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Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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> The problem is that it is really difficult to define what hate speech is It can be, but free speech types like to pretend it's nigh impossible. The UK has had modern hate-speech laws (for want of a better term) since the Public Order Act 1986, which made it an offence to stir up or incite racial hatred. Amendments in 2006 and 2008 expanded that to religious and homophobic hatred respectively. This exists in stark c…

> which made it an offence to stir up or incite racial hatred. If you point out that one racial demographic is responsible for more crimes than another, would that run afoul of the statute? If not, what if you additionally point out that the reason these crimes were committed is likely because that behaviour is normalized in their culture? This seems like it would definitely run afoul of the statute, and if this logi…

It's pretty apparent that the arrests are happening to people who explicitly call for violence, eg the woman who called for burning down all hotels housing immigrants. Musk, Rogan, etc are patient zero of the ones amplifying the false idea that you can get in legal trouble "for posting an opinion."

Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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Maybe next time just look one one more click into the ownership. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBT_Media IBT Media was owned by the parent company of Newsweek for 5 years 2013-2018. It is now owned by followers of this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jang So... Yeah.

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No bigotry at all. It has nothing to do with his ethnicity. Just that the guy and his followers are notably biased, and they are open about it. Sorry you misunderstood as bigotry my pointing out the clear bias of the owners and your incorrect attribution of ownership. Look at the content section of your original link about IBT. The rag is clearly not run on sound journalistic practices.

Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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Considering the staggering number of arrest for online/offensive communications in England & Wales, we should add Britain to the list of Russia and Iran 2017: ~5,500 arrests 2019: ~7,734 arrests 2023: ~12,183 arrests

And the partialness of arrests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaa_Abd_El-Fattah comes to mind whose tweets..

Re: Staying ahead of censors in 2025

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The flaw in your argument is that it assumes a clear and workable distinction between "a joke" and "obvious hate speech." Yet one of the strongest objections to the very concept of "hate speech" is precisely that we lack a reliable way to stop the term from expanding indefinitely. The case of Count Dankula is a textbook example: it is plainly a joke, and interpreting it as Nazi promotion or hate speech requires an ex…

Ah yes, that famous "joke" which evolves a Nazi salute after antisemitic phrases are said. I think Israel is undermining the Jewish cause with their current label-everything-we-dont-like-as-antisemitic rhetoric. But this "joke" is probably where the line should be drawn for actual antisemitic behaviour. Whether the person was an antisemite or not, just don't go there. There is no reason to. As a joke between you and…

Israel is surrounded by a ocean of minority genociding imperialist islamo supremacists using proxies and petrodollars to subvert the umbilical keeping it alive. Up to and including pushing narratives about a genocide that never happened.

It has ever right to be worried and frankly seeing how much activist media and the west republished terrorist propaganda.. they are right.

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