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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by londons_explore »

crazygringo wrote: post #11

This is insane. I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. But this does seem like it will be a godsend for researche…

> Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible.

Download the lot to a big Nas and get Claude to write a little fronted with song search and auto playlist recommendations?

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by 1dry »

1dry wrote: post #189
crazygringo wrote: post #11

This is insane. I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. But this does seem like it will be a godsend for researche…

Thank god we are taking care of the “researchers working on things like music classification and generation” ! As long as we can convince ourselves we have a sound analysis of it, no need to support and defend people making actual art right. So much already made, who needs more? This is not to defend Spotify (death to it), but to state that opening all of this data for even MORE garbage generation is a step in the wr…

updated - thank you commenters for making it clear that my sentiment was not clear

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by Narushia »

david_p wrote: post #184
some-guy wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m still using the “successor” to what.cd and I usually discover artists through random lists, “related artists”, among other things on the platform. One interesting way of discovering artists is finding an artist that I already like on a compilation CD, and then seeing what else is on the CD.

Would you share the name of that successor? I miss the old internet and would love to take a look.

It's Redacted.sh, a.k.a. RED. They have around three million torrents. But like What.CD, Redacted.sh is a private tracker, so you can't just jump in and see the content.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by hkt »

amitav1 wrote: post #222
gmueckl wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then you have a money trail connecting the company unambiguously to copyright violations on a scale that is arguably larger than Napster.

Yeah,how devstating it would be for Anna's Archive to be found skirting copyright laws. Their reputation may never recover. \s

He meant the AI companies

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by foresto »

uhfraid wrote: post #137
IgorPartola wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is technically stealing It is technically not. Stealing means you have a thing, I steal it, now I have the thing and you do not. You can’t steal a copyright (aside from something like breaking into your stuff and stealing the proof that you hold the copyright), and then a song is downloaded the original copyright holder still have copy. Calling piracy theft was MPAA/RIAA propaganda. Now people say that piracy is…

> Stealing means you have a thing, I steal it, now I have the thing and you do not. that seems like an overly narrow definition… what about identity theft, or IP theft? https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/superseding-indictment-...

Mitchell & Webb's take on "identity theft" is worth a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9ptA3Ya9E

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Post by [deleted] »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #217
lurk2 wrote: post #208

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> Infra isn’t free. There is a certain irony in people providing copyrighted works for free justifying profiting from these copyrights on the basis that providing the works to others isn’t free.

Cost recovery isn’t profit. Copyright is just a shared delusion, like most laws. They’re just bits on a disk we’re told are special for ~100 years (or whatever the copyright lockup length is in your jurisdiction), after which they’re no longer special (having entered the public domain). I think what is more ironic is we somehow were comfortable being collectively conditioned (manufactured consent?) with the idea that…

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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by sgtlaggy »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #190
charcircuit wrote: post #176

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You can load any youtube music song on youtube by just removing the "music" subdomain.

Then why do you say they might not be the same files?

Music might have higher quality audio-only files as provided where Youtube might have it combined with video and a generic compression algorithm applied as with all other uploaded videos.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by hbs18 »

WD-42 wrote: post #16
basisword wrote: post #6

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Nobody is gonna download a 300TB torrent just to get the latest Taylor Swift album. There are much easier avenues than that. What’s actually scummy is Spotify paying artists $1 per 1000 streams. Buy CDs. Use Bandcamp.

> Nobody is gonna download a 300TB torrent just to get the latest Taylor Swift album

Well, no. They'll just select the album download it selectively from the torrent.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by jasonvorhe »

lurk2 wrote: post #208
toomuchtodo wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You go where the money is. Infra isn’t free. Churches pass the plate every Sunday. Perhaps one day we’ll exist in a more optimal socioeconomic system; until then, you do what you have to do to accomplish your goals (in this context, archivists and digital preservation).

> Infra isn’t free. There is a certain irony in people providing copyrighted works for free justifying profiting from these copyrights on the basis that providing the works to others isn’t free.

Everyone is doing it, who Cates anymore. Genie's out of the bottle, we could've tried to solve this for decades and yet we didn't so now we reap what we sowed. Happens, move on.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by cluckindan »

walthamstow wrote: post #206

Very interesting that a white noise track for babies is the 4th most popular track on Spotify.

Interesting if that is considered to be copyrightable. Any white noise track is perceptually indistinguishable from another, but none have the exact same sequence of samples except by chance, or if the noise generator happens to be deterministic as a function of time.
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