2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

Post by bartread » Fri, Dec 19, 2025, 3:15 PM UTC

al_borland wrote: post #3

I’m really not a fan of this direction for Apple. One of the differentiators between iOS and Google was a lack of ads, which make the experience feel more premium. Increasing ads, or having them at all, really erodes the user experience. Apple managed to become the most valuable company in the world without ads. Adding them after hitting that milestone feels either greedy or desperate, maybe a little of both. I know…

Post by kalleboo » Fri, Dec 19, 2025, 3:17 PM UTC

fainpul wrote: post #131

hagbard_c wrote: post #121

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The first iPod had 5 GB of storage, less than e.g. the Creative Nomad Jukebox which had 6 GB. If you were around at the time you may remember the (in)famous verdict of CmdrTaco [1]: . No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame. So no, the fruit factory did not produce the first device which could haul your entire music collection. What they did is what has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread: they took an existin…

Fair points about intense marketing and less successful products being forgotten in history. However, I wasn't able to find anything about the first (6 GB) Nomad Jukebox on Wikipedia. The iPod was released in October 2001, I only see mentions of the Jukebox later than that. What does the "no wireless" complaint refer to? I don't see any mention of wireless connections for any of the Nomad Jukeboxes either. Besides th…

Post by rchaud » Fri, Dec 19, 2025, 3:41 PM UTC

al_borland wrote: post #107

bigyabai wrote: post #92

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Rhetorical question, though; does Apple execute better? Or do they just sell it better? Because there are many entirely-feasible things that Apple failed to execute well. Xserve, Airpower, Apple Car, all dead and buried in one way or another. Today, all their tentpole successes are difficult to distinguish from pervasive marketing influence. We can't logically use sales, customer satisfaction or user retention as met…

I think it’s a little of both. Sure, they have failures, not no one is perfect. I think the iPad is a good example. Bill Gates had a dream of the paperless office and tried to make the tablet PC happens by putting Windows XP on tablets with some pen support. I saw a few of them in my help desk days in college, but they never really caught on. They put a desktop OS on a tablet and it was annoying to use. They also tri…

Post by senordevnyc » Fri, Dec 19, 2025, 3:46 PM UTC

teekert wrote: post #143

nottorp wrote: post #141

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Meh. Context: we're migrating to MS cloud services at work from Google so everyone is setting up accounts, authenticators etc. Pretty seamless migration overall btw, guess our admins worked like dogs. So I post this screenshot in a work chat as a warning (that's why i still have it). All my Android using colleagues tell me "it's the same in the Play Store, watch what you click."

So it really is normal, wherever you go. We're not even surprised about it, let alone outraged. We've lost.

Post by al_borland » Fri, Dec 19, 2025, 4:03 PM UTC

nottorp wrote: post #126

audunw wrote: post #123

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You say it's not marked as an ad, but in that image there's a clear blue "Ad" label. Are there cases where that label is not present?

Seriously? I haven't noticed it. Maybe it's clear to you... or you work in marketing and have a different definition of "clear". Note that this is a screenshot from a hi dpi iphone that went through a few upload/download/reencode cycles [1] so it lost all density information. On the real phone screen the "Ad" thing is extremely tiny and unnoticeable. [1] Downloaded it from my work chat where i posted it as a warning…