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Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by everdrive »

szszrk wrote: post #212
everdrive wrote: post #179

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Yes, but they can be a bit tricky to find. You can find them used. You can use a computer monitor. Ultimately, I'm planning for a world where the technological decline continues (ie, technology continues to be something which its users do not own or control) and things like adblock just don't work anymore. When that finally happens, I'm honestly going to be watching DVDs, VHS, reading books, etc. This is a game of ca…

> Yes, but they can be a bit tricky to find. You can find them used. You can use a computer monitor. Sir, that's basically a no. A TV is a specific device. It has many functions that TV monitor seldom has, or implements poorly. Like speakers. Or rich inputs and outputs, like multiple hdmi and antenna. Or a proper remote, a dvb-t tuner. Or play media on it's own when connected via USB. Or DLNA (I had devices far from…

You use use cases will vary, but I'll bet what 90% of people do can be duplicated with a laptop or an Apple TV.

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Post by array_key_first »

szszrk wrote: post #212
everdrive wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but they can be a bit tricky to find. You can find them used. You can use a computer monitor. Ultimately, I'm planning for a world where the technological decline continues (ie, technology continues to be something which its users do not own or control) and things like adblock just don't work anymore. When that finally happens, I'm honestly going to be watching DVDs, VHS, reading books, etc. This is a game of ca…

> Yes, but they can be a bit tricky to find. You can find them used. You can use a computer monitor. Sir, that's basically a no. A TV is a specific device. It has many functions that TV monitor seldom has, or implements poorly. Like speakers. Or rich inputs and outputs, like multiple hdmi and antenna. Or a proper remote, a dvb-t tuner. Or play media on it's own when connected via USB. Or DLNA (I had devices far from…

Sceptre makes dumb TVs. I have a monitor for them that's many years old - it was a good value and has held up.

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Post by thedougd »

timbit42 wrote: post #229
t_sea wrote: post #92

My TV only gets internet access when there is a firmware update I care about

If it's not online, why would there ever be a firmware update you care about?

There are firmware updates that improve picture quality, address compatibility issues that are discovered after release, and even increase the lifetime of the TV.

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Post by alias_neo »

aembleton wrote: post #216
alias_neo wrote: post #187

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Maybe this is what I need to do. I disconnected our living room LG TV from the internet and got a Fire Stick 4K Max, but I hate it; 90% of the screen is advert, and you get a tiny sliver for the 5 apps it lets you see, and you have to go digging for the rest, not to mention the home-screen advertising isn't always appropriate for young children. I hadn't considered Apple TV because I've never been an Apple user, but…

You could install Flauncher or another launcher onto Android TV. Then you don't see ads.

Unfortunately not possible on the Fire Stick (4K Max), Amazon have modified it to disallow other launchers; there are some "hacks" but none have worked for me and the closest one I did get to working was too much of a pain for the rest of the family.

I've found no way to root it either so I just want rid of it, every time something appears almost-full-screen on the home page that's inappropriate for the kids with no regard for what time of day it is, my wife gets all the more annoyed by it; she never wanted it in the first place, so the poor experience is not helping my case).

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Post by ZooCow »

aembleton wrote: post #215
mikkupikku wrote: post #195

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My new rule for modern TVs is don't have a TV at all. The social role of having a TV is rapidly dwindling. First off, the number of movies and TV shows that merit even being watched is dwindling. Secondly, even if you find something worth watching, the odds that anybody else will want to watch it is small; everybody has been atomized by recommendation algorithms, everybody gets shown a different set of ads and media,…

I like rewatching old TV shows and films, streamed from my Jellyfin server. For me, my rule is to get a Google TV, because I can change out the launcher to Flauncher. At least that way I don't see any ads. Google may well still be tracking me, but they do all over the web and I have an Android phone so they've already got plenty of data on me. I just avoid their ads so that it minimises the profitability of that data…

I agree. My Google TV with Projectivity Launcher shows zero launcher ads unlike my Apple TV. As a bonus, it lets me install SmartTube and use DeArrow and Sponsor Block.

I just wish I could get something similar as a native iOS app. Although I can use Safari extensions, the Safari YouTube experience on iOS is terrible.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by szszrk »

array_key_first wrote: post #232
szszrk wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, but they can be a bit tricky to find. You can find them used. You can use a computer monitor. Sir, that's basically a no. A TV is a specific device. It has many functions that TV monitor seldom has, or implements poorly. Like speakers. Or rich inputs and outputs, like multiple hdmi and antenna. Or a proper remote, a dvb-t tuner. Or play media on it's own when connected via USB. Or DLNA (I had devices far from…

Sceptre makes dumb TVs. I have a monitor for them that's many years old - it was a good value and has held up.

Thanks, they don't seem to exist in EU.

I think closest are some Sharp models, and their screens are great. But that also requires hunting for commercial models mean for large displays.

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Post by mikkupikku »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #208
mikkupikku wrote: post #195

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My new rule for modern TVs is don't have a TV at all. The social role of having a TV is rapidly dwindling. First off, the number of movies and TV shows that merit even being watched is dwindling. Secondly, even if you find something worth watching, the odds that anybody else will want to watch it is small; everybody has been atomized by recommendation algorithms, everybody gets shown a different set of ads and media,…

>First off, the number of movies and TV shows that merit even being watched is dwindling The first item in your list to others is subjective

That's a popular and socially safe point of view, but it's completely wrong. Artistic merit, like truth and beauty, is an objective quality completely orthogonal to cultural differences or personal opinion. To illustrate this orthogonality, I invite you to realize there exists art which has great merit and yet which you personally do not like. You should be able to do this, if you can't manage I can provide my own examples for you. The existence of such art proves that personal preferences don't weigh on the recognition of artistic merit.

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Post by delfinom »

hapticmonkey wrote: post #74
drnick1 wrote: post #66

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> I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They may or may not display ads (I don't have an AppleTV to check), but they are certainly logging your interactions and possibly selling that data with third parties. That is on top of all the data Apple already has on people using iPhones, and the reason why I will never use anything other than a free/libre ROM like Graphene or…

> Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They quite literally have settings to disable that. There are no ads in the operating system. https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/tv/atvb66239fa1/tvos I'm sure some conspiratorial thinking would lead people to the conclusion that Apple are secretly tracking and selling data. There is no evidence to suggest this is happening. It's probably the next best thing to setti…

>I'm sure some conspiratorial thinking would lead people to the conclusion that Apple are secretly tracking and selling data.

Apple in their privacy policy reserves the right to use your data for ads. They aren't secretly tracking, they are telling you so.

But it's no different than Google, who also doesn't sell your data. Just mining it to target ads.

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Post by asix66 »

alias_neo wrote: post #199
isoprophlex wrote: post #193

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Happy apple tv user for > 5 years now. It has icons for the apps you want to start on the home screen. You click the icons. The apps start. It's connected to a samsung tv that's not allowed wifi access. Besides the bad and steadily worsening UX of streaming apps like Netflix, my setup itself never shows me any ads. Also the apple tv remote has a very solid, premium feel, which i like

Thank you, that's exactly what I'm after. A quick search, suggests the latest is 3rd gen (2022), am I looking at the right device?

Yes. Macrumors here says “don’t buy” [0], but only because they tend to recommend only if tech is “new”. I have this ATv gen and it’s not perfect, but is really the best streaming box, having used roku and nvidia shield. PS: get the version with wired ethernet if you can…wifi works, but no surprise that wired is more solid.

[0] https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/apple-tv/

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