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Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Times New Roman is an old perspective. It’s all part of Trump’s plan to take America back to 1950 and pretend 2050 isn’t coming up.

They should bring back mid-Atlantic accents, then there'd be some silver lining to all this bullshit

Yeah, we all thought the fascists at least would be stylish when they came.

No, it’s all just fake gold and baseball caps.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Forgive my ignorance but this seems to be one of the most neutral things Hitler did. He just didn't like the font so he ordered it to be changed. Equivalent to your boss ordering tabs be used instead of spaces. After the war was lost the arguments just continued. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiqua%E2%80%93Fraktur_disput...

Yeah it was so the occupied peoples could read the edicts better. Sp perhaps not so neutral, after all.

“I want a new font so it’s easier to read” isn’t neutral?

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Is it "signalling" when the left's change was for an accessibility reason, to enable more people to be able to easily read? Signaling means there's no tangible benefit to the change, so the Blinken's switch to a sans-serif font would not be signaling. Rubio, however, specifically pointed out the symbolic (and malicious) gesture of his whole switch back to Times New Roman. The left didn't react pettily. Please stop th…

I think the concept of an accessible font is signaling. I don't think that Times New Roman is actually less legible than Calibri, and have never seen research claiming to find that Times New Roman in particular or serifs in general pose accessibility problems.

I easily found some research by searching Google scholar:

https://www.scitepress.org/Papers/2021/109668/109668.pdf

It's not a big difference, but apparently TNR was the worst of the fonts tested for OCR.

But anyway, there was no "signaling" about the change to Calibri. No-one ever tried to make a political issue out of it the way Rubio is now.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Yeah it was so the occupied peoples could read the edicts better. Sp perhaps not so neutral, after all.

“I want a new font so it’s easier to read” isn’t neutral?

Not when you are the aggressor in WW2?

I guess if Russia invaded Western Europe and Putin decided to switch from Cyrillic to Latin script so the subjugated peoples would more easily read and learn Russian, that would be neutral too?

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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I'm really out of the loop on this. What virtue is being signaled by who? I know people get real touchy about fonts, but I have a hard time understanding why this is even a news article.

Calibri is a Sans Serif font and because it has been the default Microsoft Office font for more than a decade, it is fake email job haver coded (i.e. it appeals to young and middle-aged women who work in HR, this demographic being predominantly Democrat). Times New Roman is a Serif font which looks old and official to cater to boomers and has Roman in it to appeal to Zoomers who want to RETVRN with a V to tradition.…

As if anybody would be daft enough to deny that you are of course absolutely right, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/09/us/politics/rubio-state-d... has this additional detail:

> Mr. Rubio's directive, under the subject line "Return to Tradition: Times New Roman 14-Point Font Required for All Department Paper,"

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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Is it "signalling" when the left's change was for an accessibility reason, to enable more people to be able to easily read? Signaling means there's no tangible benefit to the change, so the Blinken's switch to a sans-serif font would not be signaling. Rubio, however, specifically pointed out the symbolic (and malicious) gesture of his whole switch back to Times New Roman. The left didn't react pettily. Please stop th…

I think the concept of an accessible font is signaling. I don't think that Times New Roman is actually less legible than Calibri, and have never seen research claiming to find that Times New Roman in particular or serifs in general pose accessibility problems.

"Decisions I know nothing about are signaling" is a phenomenally uncurious approach to life.

Re: Rubio stages font coup: Times New Roman ousts Calibri

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> calling his predecessor Antony Blinken's decision to adopt Calibri a "wasteful" diversity move And changing it back to Times New Roman isn't wasteful?

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No one said it can't be changed back. No one called anyone weird or Hitler. They just said that "it was wasteful to change it from X to Y, so I'm changing it from Y back to X" isn't a logical argument.
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