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Ghostty is now non-profit

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Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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Post by eviks »

lionkor wrote: post #229
eviks wrote: post #227

> but a non-profit structure allows others to contribute financially without fear of misappropriation or misuse of funds (as protected by legal requirements and oversight from the fiscal sponsor). None of the parenthesised provide any strong guarantees against these to alleviate such fears, are there not enough non-profits that misuse funds, say, on too high of an executive compensation instead of product development…

The fiscal sponsor (Hack Club) is a sponsor to many projects, and they presumably do keep an eye on the finances.

Why would you presume that? Especially given what it is:

> We are teen hackers from around the world who code together

(besides, "many projects" is more likely a downside here as it spreads the oversight resources)

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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Post by coldtea »

citizenpaul wrote: post #127
torben-friis wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This community sounds amazing, is there anything similar for adults rather than teens? The “understanding through building” mentality is something I never got to experience as a group, the obvious answer is open source and the like but I wonder if there’s something more learning oriented.

I know I'm jaded but anytime I see a business situation and they specifically say you must be a MINOR to work with them... I get kinda suspicious. >Yes, I'm a teenager ,18 and under So not actually a teenager but a minor is what they mean and use what I would call deceptive language around it. But why?....

That's not jaded, that's paranoid-ly misreading this.

It's an organization for hacking working with high schools and young people. They don't want small children enrolled, and they don't want older people.

"teenager 18 and under" is perfectly fine description for 13-18 or 7th to 12th grade.

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Post by lvl155 »

There aren’t that many people like Mitchell. He exited Hashicorp and most people would just do typical Zuck things. For him to still have motivation to make Ghostty from scratch and Zig of all things. The guy is a coder through and through.

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Post by ykonstant »

geophph wrote: post #122
sevensor wrote: post #94

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> A non-profit structure provides enforceable assurances: the mission cannot be quietly changed, funds cannot be diverted to private benefit, and the project cannot be sold off or repurposed for commercial gain Yeah, OpenAI has shown us that this is more negotiable than we might have believed. Fortunately nobody will ever think terminal emulation is a trillion dollar industry, so I think we’re ok.

Terminals are the next bubble to burst

The CLIpocalypse is coming!

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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Post by ubercow13 »

dmytrokow wrote: post #126
maccard wrote: post #123

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Alacritty is “barebones” and doesn’t have modern features like… tabs. Wezterm fits the vim/emacs bill of “make it whatever you want”. I want something in between - iTerm2 for 2025. Stuff like secure input on macOS is something that is just nice - it behaves like a real platform app and not jsut the lowest common denominator loosely ported. They say in the docs it’s not the best at anything, but it’s competitive in pe…

> Alacritty is “barebones” and doesn’t have modern features like... tabs. It does. And the barebones complaint is literally funny (I'm mentally giggling) because Ghostty didn't have modern features like... search, literally 4 days ago https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/pull/9756 That's why I'm staying on Alacritty on my company mac.

Alacritty didn't even have scrollback for years.

Alacritty's search is less useful than Ghostty's implementation as it you have to exit search mode to do anything else.

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Post by eviks »

simonw wrote: post #63
miclill wrote: post #61

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I recently heard the argument that the license-friction of copyleft sometimes is actually a good thing. Think linux kernel that arguably is more successful than all the BSDs combined (citation needed)...

I'd be really interested in hearing more about that argument. I can take a guess with respect to Linux: that's the kind of software where forcing companies to submit code back to it is enormously beneficial due to the need for an operating system to have drivers for vast ranges of different hardware.

How does Windows without such force to contribute code back have better drivers?

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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Post by cess11 »

danilafe wrote: post #198

I keep seeing Ghostty in the news, and I've tried it, but it feels like just another terminal emulator to men. This coming from someone who spends 90% of the workday in the terminal. Asking in good faith -- could someone tell me what's special about Ghostty compared to alternatives?

It's good at what it does. Starts quickly, doesn't get bogged down when dumping large amounts of text into it, got some nice themes.

I find it a bit messy to build but I'm not exactly a compile binaries kind of person anymore so it's probably a good sign that I still manage to figure it out. If stuff like Zig is your thing you'll probably enjoy this part.

My main terminal emulator is the bog slow but reliable Terminator, though in a while I'll probably flip the i3 commands and move over entirely to Ghostty.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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Post by trueno »

pprotas wrote: post #217
trueno wrote: post #28

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ive found ghostty to be a pretty decent replacement for iterm2, some bugs still being worked out and i havent always had the best luck with the guake dropdown style terminal but all in all it's pretty nice. sort of miss the additional hot-key invoking options iterm2 had (i could double tap control or cmd to invoke) and ghostty is a lil more limited there, but overall its solid, doesn't feel bloated. iterm2's settings…

Regarding the SSH issue (if anyone else reading this had the same): Certain CLI tools complain about unknown $TERM env vars. For example, I could not open vim when SSHing into my Hetzner VPS in Ghostty. The fix is to set TERM to some well-known alternative before running your tool, like so: TERM=xterm vim

oh my god this was it. thank you!! (i never fixed it but im going to now!)

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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Post by StrLght »

28304283409234 wrote: post #228

This is just a terminal emulator right?

Yes, it is. It's so wild to see this.

For years people didn't care that much about specific terminal emulators or opinionated dotfiles. Now projects like Ghostty and Omarchy get tons of attention.

I get that it's probably not the projects themselves, but rather authors behind them. I'm also not saying that these projects are bad — they could be good. I don't use them, so I wouldn't know. It's just discouraging, seeing that other similar projects don't and probably won't get that traction.

Re: Ghostty is now non-profit

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Post by [deleted] »

danilafe wrote: post #198

I keep seeing Ghostty in the news, and I've tried it, but it feels like just another terminal emulator to men. This coming from someone who spends 90% of the workday in the terminal. Asking in good faith -- could someone tell me what's special about Ghostty compared to alternatives?

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