In hindsight, that would've been a real utility use case for NFTs. A decentralized cryptographic prove that some content existed in a particular form at a particular moment.
Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
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Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...
I find this amusing, because it seems like Kagi's target audience dislikes this (politically polarized), and I as someone who is not Kagi's target audience likes this (politically neutral).
Wait, what? Their choice is specifically a politically neutral one, wouldn't that mean their target audience is a politically neutral one? Why is your impression that Kagi's target audience is politically polarized users? Been a paying user of Kagi for years, never got that impression.
FWIW, I don't think Kagi should remove or avoid indexing content from countries that invade others, because a lot of the times websites in those countries have useful information on them. If Kagi were to enact such a block, it would mean it would no longer surface results from HN, reddit and a bunch of other communities, effectively making the search engine a lot less useful.
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
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I share an opinion with Nick Bostrom, once a civilization disrupting idea (like LLMs) is pulled out of the bag, there is no putting it back. People in isolation will recreate it simply because it's now possible. All we can do is adapt. That being said, the idea of a new freer internet is reality.. Mastodon is a great example. I think private havens like discord/matrix/telegram are an important step on the way.
how does one keep ai out of private havens? thorough verification? is that the future? private havens on platforms?
In person web of trust in order to join any private community. It'll suck and be hard in the beginning, but once you reach a threshold, it'll be OK. Ban entire trees of users when you discover bots/puppets, to set an example.
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
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Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats
Be aware of: https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchKagi/comments/1gvlqhm/disappo...
Yeah I kept thinking "man I should try kagi" and then that :(
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#235> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…
Honestly the biggest failing is just SEO spam sites got too good at defeating the algorithm. The amount of bloody listicles or quora nonsense or backlink farming websties that come up in search is crazy.
I feel like google gave up the fight at some point. I think HN had some good articles that indicated that.
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#236> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…
The problem is that before Nov 30, 2022 we also had plenty of human-generated slop bearing down on the web. SEO content specifically.
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
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We used a rather low number of atmospheric bombs, while we are carpet bombing the internet every day with AI marketing copy.
The eternal September has finally ended. We've now entered the AI winter. It promises to be long, dark, and full of annoyances.
"Winter" in AI (or cryptocurrency, or any at all) ecosystems denote a period of low activity, and a focus on fundamentals instead of driven by hype.
What we're seeing now is something more like the peak of summer. If it ends up being a bubble, and it burtst, some months after that will be "AI Winter" as investors won't want to continue chucking money at problems anymore, and it'll go back to "in the background research" again, as it was before.
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#239> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…
Goodhart's law applies to links, too. Google monetized them and destroyed their value as a signal.
Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release
#240> This is a search tool that will only return content created before ChatGPT's first public release on November 30, 2022. The problem is that Google's search engine - but, oddly enough, ALL search engines - got worse before that already. I noticed that search engines got worse several years before 2022. So, AI further decreased the quality, but the quality had a downwards trend already, as it was. There are some atte…
Are you aware of Kagi (kagi.com)? With them, at least the AI stuff can be turned off. Membership is presently about 61k, and seems to be growing about 2k per month: https://kagi.com/stats
Haven't looked back since I signed up.