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Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Post by roboror »

materielle wrote: post #159
aurareturn wrote: post #14

- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

I think investors would certainly love this. So why hasn’t it already happened? My guess: they would lose a ton of cultural cachet. Turning OpenAI into an ads business is basically admitting that AGI isn’t coming down the pipeline anytime soon. Yes, I know people will make some cost-based argument that ads + agi is perfectly logical. But that’s not how people will perceive things, and OpenAI knows this. And I think t…

I agree but even if AGI is possible within 5-10 years it must be hard to justify maintaining or even increasing this level of burn for much longer.

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Post by aurareturn »

pier25 wrote: post #210

So basically they are admitting that not enough people will pay for it to be a profitable business. Also that they don’t have any significant improvements to the tech coming up.

Would you say that Google admitted that not enough people will pay for Youtube premium to be a profitable business so they had to get into ads?

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Post by Spivak »

logifail wrote: post #101
aurareturn wrote: post #14

- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

> I think people who kept saying there is no moat in AI is about to be shocked at how strong of a moat there actually is for ChatGPT Given one can (at least for the moment) export one's entire chat history from ChatGPT, what exactly would stop a ChatGPT user from switching to an alternative if the alternative is either better, or better value?

People are being weird about this. ChatGPT has no moat because switching costs are zero. There's no investment into a particular AI service.

ChatGPT has mindshare but that's not the same as it being a moat. The fact that people will continue to use ChatGPT after some gentle frog boiling is true of any service. Adding ads is going to be a measure of how real people tolerate ads more than anything about ChatGPT. Normal people really don't care that much and it bothers me—and probably most of HN.

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Post by auggierose »

chroma205 wrote: post #192
auggierose wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of users having no idea what "export chat history" means?

> 99% of users having no idea what "export chat history" means? Yet Google Chrome managed to make Safari/Edge irrelevant.

Yeah, not because of browser history export/import, mate. I've never used that feature for any browser.

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Post by [deleted] »

lenkite wrote: post #57
aurareturn wrote: post #14

- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

Only a short matter of time before agentic tools start serving ads too - paying user or not. You want to refactor your codebase ? No issue - taking 30 seconds - please view this ad meanwhile.

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Post by Spivak »

daliusd wrote: post #194
logifail wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think people who kept saying there is no moat in AI is about to be shocked at how strong of a moat there actually is for ChatGPT Given one can (at least for the moment) export one's entire chat history from ChatGPT, what exactly would stop a ChatGPT user from switching to an alternative if the alternative is either better, or better value?

What alternative? Switching requires something what is better 10x

No it doesn't, people switch ISPs and phone plans all the time for on the order of 1x difference.

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Post by victorbuilds »

Building an AI product for kids right now. Went with subscriptions specifically to avoid ads. Kids are especially vulnerable to advertising and parents are increasingly suspicious of ad-supported "free" products. Curious to see if OpenAI carves out any age-based protections.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

shevy-java wrote: post #58

This actually made me smile. The reason should be explained. I hate ads, so I was sold on e. g. ublock origin from the get go - it is a general content blocker, before Google declared total war against and disabled the extension (karma will come back to Google eventually, but that is a separate story). I decide to want to live an ad-free life, naturally including on the world wide web. All ads must go. There is no "c…

I just assume it will be too tempting to also serve ads to paying customers. Depending on the subtlety, you might not detect the difference.

Maybe we need some kind of "Truth-teller/Liar puzzle" solution—play one LLM off another.

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Post by jchip303 »

aurareturn wrote: post #136
logifail wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think people who kept saying there is no moat in AI is about to be shocked at how strong of a moat there actually is for ChatGPT Given one can (at least for the moment) export one's entire chat history from ChatGPT, what exactly would stop a ChatGPT user from switching to an alternative if the alternative is either better, or better value?

No one normal will do that. And I'm betting that OpenAI will get rid of that functionality soon.

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