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Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by tavavex »

charcircuit wrote: post #172
binarymax wrote: post #130

Why. Why are they doing this. It’s the same with Netflix. I don’t understand. What is the metric that goes up when they show a couple giant videos.

It may reduce decision paralysis and they are hoping their recommendation is good enough.

I honestly think that at some point, there will be no recommendations page. You'll open YouTube and it'll start autoplaying the video that they (or the advertisers) think you should see. You'll be able to skip to other videos from there, like on short-form content platforms. Likes and subscriptions will dictate how likely it'll be that you'll see a video by that creator in the future. Search and other "outdated" features will be tucked away and purposefully made even more useless than they already are.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by baumy »

JAlexoid wrote: post #212
baumy wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will not be pretending that. I am _asserting_ it. I made no such agreement with YouTube. I am very confused why you think I did

Are you going to lie that you didn't know that the videos are shown to you in exchange for ads? Entering into a contract doesn't necessarily require you to sign a document. Quite a few contracts that we make every day require no formal acceptance, like entering a shop.

No, I'm going to state the truth that I never agreed to be shown ads, and you are extremely weird for lying and claiming that I did.

Google wants to show me ads. I don't want to see them. I demonstrated this by blocking them. Google continues to show me videos anyway. Clearly they're ok with the arrangement. They are free to present me with written terms, or gate all their videos behind a login, but they choose not to do so.

You are either very confused or playing stupid for some reason that I don't understand, but it isn't amusing or cute. This will probably earn me a dang warning but I don't really care - you are full of shit. You're making claims all over this thread that you've literally just made up.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by cm2012 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #124
cm2012 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, Youtube pays out more to creators than anyone else on the web, they dwarf Patreon 10x. People who make youtube videos rely on ads to get paid.

They’re welcome not to make videos. But if they make them and lay them out there for free alongside some garbage I have the right to ignore, don’t blame me if I do look at them and ignore the garbage, and since there’s so much of it I eventually get my machine to ignore them, not unlike wearing gloves when dealing with a messy task as to save you the time of scrubbing your hands from dirt/oil/etc.

If its so gross you dont have to use/watch youtube!

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by JAlexoid »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #213
JAlexoid wrote: post #139

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It's becomes piracy when you create a new distribution without ads... which you're doing with ad blockers.

That is not what distribution means. I am allowed to splice up my personal copies of videos.

You are allowed to splice it up, when you have a legally acquired personal copy.

But in this case you don't have one in the first place.

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Post by jemmyw »

JAlexoid wrote: post #225
tailrecursion wrote: post #186

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I agree with this. There was no meeting of the minds, no contract. But, the terms in the Google account probably include something about the terms for viewing youtube videos.

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> You know that when a public pace of business has "No dogs" sign and you enter it, that you entered into a contract with that business

You are incorrect about that, which probably invalidates your other arguments. A condition of entry is not a contract. If you disobey the condition of entry then you have not broken a contract, and nothing changes between you and the business owner. They can ask you to leave and they can trespass you if you do not, but importantly, they can do those things for any reason they like, whether you obey the conditions of entry or not.

It is not a contract by law, nor does it meet the definition of a contract.

Similarly, YouTube can retract their website from public view, or attempt to block you specifically. But you have not entered into a contract with them by viewing the site.

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Post by vitorgrs »

charcircuit wrote: post #165
vitorgrs wrote: post #99

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There's no ads on Revanced...

Yes, there are. But there is a toggle to switch them on and off.

Not sure why mine there's no ads... Never had to toggle, as far I remember. I used Revanced Manager.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by schmuckonwheels »

aidenn0 wrote: post #193
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

I used to pay for YouTube premium. I stopped doing that, uninstalled the apps, and now use it through the browser with adblockers. (Yes, on my phone and iPad.) It works so well I’ve gotten at least half a dozen neighbours to do the same. If you haven’t tried it, it’s a definitive step up in UX.

Anyone else notice that most youtube ads are really bad . Seeing a product in a youtube ad now causes me to be more likely to believe it's a ripoff. Things like a cheap $5 fan being sold for $60 as roughly: "Super efficient A/C that will save you $100s on your electricity bill and can cool a room down in just minutes"

I assume you mean all the snake oil pre-playback ads? Mostly dangerous medical advice, solar scams, or wellness quackery.

This week, an instructional video I was watching on how to repair my water heater was suddenly interrupted by a campy ad for pussy-hair razors.

It was so ill-timed, bizarre, and inappropriate I burst out laughing.

The other one I was seeing a lot of, until very recently, was pornographic static ads that were implemented as an optical illusion. If you viewed it at full scale it was an innocuous image of a closet or chair or something, so it passed all checks, but when scaled into a thumbnail, it turns into a silhouette of a woman giving oral or something else obscene. Not sure what this technique is called or how it's done. (It's not a schooner, it's a sailboat.)

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Post by tavavex »

darth_avocado wrote: post #65
7373737373 wrote: post #8

Whoever made automatic AI dubs a default and impossible to disable also needs to be fired

While we’re at it can we also fire the guy who made it that we now have to click the channel’s mini thumbnail to open it, EXCEPT, when the channel is live and clicking the thumbnail takes you to the live video where you have to click the thumbnail again.

Oh, are we talking about bad YouTube UX? How about the "feature" where the right and left arrows seek the video 5s forward and back, while the up and down arrows increase and decrease the volume? That is, unless the last UI element you've touched was the volume bar, in which case the side arrows will also change the volume, and you'll have to use the mouse to clear the focus away from that volume bar to be able to seek the video again. I still wonder how they managed to break this despite it having had a sane, consistent, defined behavior for probably over a decade before that point.

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Post by [deleted] »

chrneu wrote: post #185
danpalmer wrote: post #36

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I do pay for YouTube Premium, I see no ads, and everything works pretty conveniently. What's your point, that with a bit of extra effort you can pirate content?

For me, and many people, advertising is a mental health issue. I don't enjoy those ads, they are very disturbing and jarring. It causes me anxiety and I don't like the things that those ads normalize. I don't think most people, especially americans, realize how far off the rails our society is in terms of our normalization of insane shit. So, for health reasons, I block nearly all advertisements. It is a HUGE mental…

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