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Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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To continue the thread, my favorite is https://drop.lol

I’m using FilePizza when I need it, saw it on HN recently. All this AI magic allegedly taking our jobs, but we still can’t transfer files from one device to another, or print a document reliably. https://file.pizza/

Drop.lol works in android-firefox. File.pizza isn't, for me.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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While I bet there’s some technicality I’ll get gotcha’d on, iOS apps do the exact same nowadays.

iOS apps didn't , for the majority of the iPhone's lifespan. I explained this "technicality" upthread: > There was almost a whole decade there where Apple pretended that the feature just didn't need to exist.

The history lesson is appreciated but how does this relate to the current state of the stock file explorer that ships with the OS? I’m using my phone now and not ten years ago.

edit: oh, I think I get it. My original post wasn't intended to be read "iOS invented the file explorer, has Android also a file explorer app" (which would be silly, of course) but "when Files app released, the AOSP file explorer that commonly ships as the default was lacking, has this improved (caught up to Files app)"

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Why is quick share buried in the settings menu, instead of being an app? Especially when receiving a file, it makes no sense to start by going into settings.

Generally, you don't have to open settings. The the built-in share menu from a file has quick share as an option and if someone shares something with you, you'd get a notification.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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Aren't most people just sending files over whatsapp/signal/whatever instant messaging apps they use?

Of course, only because Apple and Google did everything in their power to prevent people sending files directly between devices. When you have a duopoly that splits the population in two parts and they can't send files between them, of course users will rely on messaging apps to share stuff. Short story: I did a long trip across two continent with my wife. Me with an Android devices, her on iOS. We did backup our pho…

I don't think that is the reason. I think people tend to choose by default the same app they are communicating on. It just feels more natural and straightforward.

The same thing used to happen (and still continues) with emails. Even with shared cloud drives synchronized to their computers an awful lot of people are still sending files by email/teams/ticketing systems.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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I’m using FilePizza when I need it, saw it on HN recently. All this AI magic allegedly taking our jobs, but we still can’t transfer files from one device to another, or print a document reliably. https://file.pizza/

> we still can’t transfer files from one device to another Nor send text message with images.

Why would a text message support images?

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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This is based on Wi-Fi Aware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Alliance#Wi-Fi_Aware Some background: https://www.ditto.com/blog/cross-platform-p2p-wi-fi-how-the-... On the Apple side, this was prompted by the EU Digital Markets Act: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/questions-and-answe...

It's interesting that apple released 3rd party Wi-Fi Aware SDK for iOS and iPadOS but no for MacOS...

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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I prefer https://pairdrop.net/ ; nicer interface

To continue the thread, my favorite is https://drop.lol

To continue to continue the thread relaysecret.com and relaysecret.com/tunnel Found it on hn years ago, still use it all the time. Perfect replacement for Firefox send, rip

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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post #146

This is based on Wi-Fi Aware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Alliance#Wi-Fi_Aware Some background: https://www.ditto.com/blog/cross-platform-p2p-wi-fi-how-the-... On the Apple side, this was prompted by the EU Digital Markets Act: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/questions-and-answe...

It's interesting that apple released 3rd party Wi-Fi Aware SDK for iOS and iPadOS but no for MacOS...

MacOS doesn’t have a gatekeeper status in the Digital Markets Act (DMA), so Apple doesn’t need to provide it. This shows that they only provide the SDK because of regulatory pressure, and try to maintain their vendor lock-in where possible.

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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The fact that I get excited about this is actually a good representation much vendor lock there is. We used to be able to send files over Bluetooth before the iPhone came out.

Ever since the iphone apple has been trying to make you believe files aren't a thing.

What's a computer?

Re: Android and iPhone users can now share files, starting with the Pixel 10

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AirDrop is cool because it works offline with relatively high bandwidth using local RF. If you want to wait for you and the target to transmit all the data to/from some server 1000 miles away (using up your precious bandwidth quota along the way) that’s always been an option.

I know there are better ways to transfer stuff. I am just saying that a majority of people don't tend to use them regardless of how easy/compatibles alternatives are. They naturally choose to transfer stuff from the same app that they are using to communicate with others.

Not everything needs to be tailored only to the most trivial use case.
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