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Gemini 3 Pro Model Card [pdf]

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Re: Gemini 3 Pro Model Card [pdf]

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It's a typo

Does Google's team not proofread this stuff? Or maybe is this an early draft that wasn't meant to be released?

This is a leak, yeah.

Though come on... Even with proofreading, this is an easy one to miss.

Re: Gemini 3 Pro Model Card [pdf]

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> Anyone with money can trivially catch up to a state of the art model from six months ago. How come apple is struggling then?

It looks more like a strategic decision tbh. The may want to use 3rd party or just wait for AI to be more stable to see how people actually use it instead of adding slop in the core of their product.

This is revisionist history. Apple wanted to fully jump in. They even rebranded AI as Apple Intelligence and announced a hoard of features which turned out to be vaporware.

Re: Gemini 3 Pro Model Card [pdf]

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Trying to open this link from Italy leads to a CSAM warning

Creator of pixeldrain here. Italy has been doing this for a very long time. They never notified me of any such material being present on my site. I have a lot of measures in place to prevent the spread of CSAM. I have sent dozens of mails to Polizia Postale and even tried calling them a few times, but they never respond. My mails go unanswered and they just hang up the phone.

Have you tried Europol?

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For SWE it is the same ranking. But if Google's $20/mo plan is comparable to the $100-200 plans for OpenAI and Anthropic, yes they are done. But we'll have to wait a few weeks to see if the nerfed model post-release is still as good.

I have a few secret prompts to test complex reasoning capabilities of new models (in law and medicine). Gemini (2.5 pro) is by a wide margin behind Anthropic (sonnet 4.5 basic thinking) and Openai (pro model) on my own benchmark and I trust my own benchmark more than public leaderboards. So it's the other way around. Google is trying to catch up where the others are. It just doesn't seem so to some because Google und…

This thread is about Gemini 3. It will be interesting to see your benchmark results when it's available later.

Re: Gemini 3 Pro Model Card [pdf]

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The strategic move to use TPU rather than Nvidia is paying well for Google. They are able to better utilize their existing large infrastructure, but also specialize the processes and pipelines for their own framework that they use to create and train models.

I think a specialized hardware for training models is the next big wave in China.

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Additional context from AI Studio including pricing: Our most intelligent model with SOTA reasoning and multimodal understanding, and powerful agentic and vibe coding capabilities > 200K tokens • Input: $4,00 / Output: $18,00 Knowledge cut off: Jan. 2025

More expensive than current 2.5 Pro. for >200k token it's at $2.5 input and $15 output right now

Re: Gemini 3 Pro Model Card [pdf]

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What's wild here is that among every single score they've absolutely killed, somehow, Anthropic and Claude Sonnet 4.5 have won a single victory in the fight: SWE Bench Verified and only by a singular point.

I already enjoy Gemini 2.5 pro for planning and if Gemini 3 is priced similarly, I'll be incredibly happy to ditch the painfully pricey Claude max subscription. To be fair, I've already got an extremely sour taste in my mouth from the last Anthropic bait and switch on pricing and usage, so happy to see Google take the crown here.

Re: Gemini 3 Pro Model Card [pdf]

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This is a big jump in most benchmarks.And if it can match other models in coding while having that Google TPM inference speed and the actually native 1m context window, it's going to be a big hit. I hope it's isn't such a sycophant like the current gemini 2.5 models, it makes me doubt its output, which is maybe a good thing now that I think about it.

> it's over for the other labs. Its not over and never will be for 2 decade old accounting software, it is definitely will not be over for other AI labs.

Can you explain what you mean by this? iPhone was the end of Blackberry. It seems reasonable that a smarter, cheaper, faster model would obsolete anything else. ChatGPT has some brand inertia, but not that much given it's barely 2 years old.
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