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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by platevoltage »

snovymgodym wrote: post #143

I do not like the Cybertruck, the company that makes it, nor the man who owns said company. That being said, I still appreciate seeing them out on the road as an example of what's effectively a concept car that made it to production. It also looks cool and stands apart aesthetically from pretty much everything else on the market, even if the giant 1-piece wiper and black plastic wheel well trim pieces mar the clean l…

The only reason any non-car enthusiasts remember the DeLorean is because it was cast in a popular movie franchise.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by AlexandrB »

SoftTalker wrote: post #119
ilamont wrote: post #3

The issue stems from the primer applied before gluing the optional light bar to the windshield (no fasteners are used in the attachment of the light bar). Is that typical in the industry, parts or components being glued onto an exterior surface instead of fastened?

Yes. The frame is welded, but more and more the body panels are glued. BMW has been doing this for a while. Modern adhesives are as strong as spot welds for this sort of thing.

People constantly underestimate adhesives. Properly applied wood glue is stronger than the wood itself. The problem with gluing everything together is repairability.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

DonHopkins wrote: post #192
mschuster91 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There has been at least one study out of Berkeley that suggests that people who drive more expensive cars are more likely to break the rules of the road. In Germany, we have a joke - BMWs don't need turn signal indicators, they have built-in precedence that comes with paying the money one needs to have to afford a BMW.

Who needs Fahrvergnügen when you can have Bezahltumvorfahrtsgefühligkeitsrechtserwartung (Paid-for-precedence-feeling-of-entitlement-expectation)?

Totally forgot about that. It's been decades since I've seen a far fig Newtons commercial.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

hn_acc1 wrote: post #190
romaaeterna wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Tesla and a drive FSD back and forth to work every day. It's great Edit in response to your edit: Would I risk myself standing in front of a FSD Tesla versus in front of an Uber or an average human-controlled car with the standard percentage chance of the human texting or being otherwise distracted or drunk or tired? I would take FSD. And I think that a mathematical rather than emotional evaluation of the od…

Hopefully not anywhere near me. My family needs me.

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by dzhiurgis »

shagmin wrote: post #178
tobrien6 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BYD is overhyped in the US for some reason. In the countries where they are available, they are considered decent budget vehicles. There's a reason why the Model Y is still the best seller in China.

Some would say Tesla has been over hyped as well.

They can say, but in open markets Teslas sell better than cheaper BYD’s.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by travisgriggs »

dexwiz wrote: post #177
sfpotter wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience, Tesla drivers are some of the worst drivers on the road. They seem to pay the least attention to what's going on around them and are the most likely to pay fast and loose with the rules of the road. I don't know what's to account for this. There has been at least one study out of Berkeley that suggests that people who drive more expensive cars are more likely to break the rules of the road. It's pos…

The last reason is the biggest imo. Previously if you didn't pay attention you would crash relatively often. Now you aren't punished in the same way. In the same way spell check made us worse spellers. You aren't required to pay attention to detail, so you never develop that skill.

I taught my kids to drive both manuals and automatics. Usually we got the hang of driving an automatic, and then added manual in to the mix.

But with one of my kids, it was exactly as above. They scared the crap out of me, because they just would not focus well enough. We transitioned to a manual so that they were required to focus on the task at hand, and they then turned into a good driver.

(Aside: my kids, now college+ age have all gotten great deals on cars on college budgets, because they were willing to take a manual that cost far less due to reduced demand).

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by stickfigure »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #133
gbhdrew wrote: post #68

The least of its problems IMO, when the Cybertruck looks like it was designed to inflict maximum harm to pedestrians in a crash. The fact that such an obviously destructive design is legal on public roads should be setting off alarm bells at the USDOT and NHTSA.

It looks like it's designed to inflict maximum harm, but it seems that it's actually less likely to kill you than an F-150 or Silverado or Ram. It has a lower hood height which is the aspect that has been hypothesized to be the reason that trucks kill pedestrians at a much greater rate than cars. I'm not trying to condone Cybertruck here. I hope the Cybertruck becomes a rallying cry to mandate pedestrian safety in th…

FortNine did a great rundown on this phenomenon last year:

"Grilles That Kill"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpuX-5E7xoU

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by Someone »

tobrien6 wrote: post #112
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #2

Even presuming pieces weren't falling off , every time I see one of these my first thought is how did this pass safety standards (e.g. the sharp corners/blades/edges; pedestrian-strike setups). Now add on flying corners/blades/edges ... even less enthused. ---- I finally drove in a Rivian — and while I prefer the hybrid drivetrains — it was exceptionally nice. As an American, I can't wait for BYD to offer test drives…

BYD is overhyped in the US for some reason. In the countries where they are available, they are considered decent budget vehicles. There's a reason why the Model Y is still the best seller in China.

https://autovista24.autovistagroup.com/news/what-were-best-s... says, for the first half of 2025:

  Best-selling BEVs in China
  January to June 2025

  Geely Geome Xingyuan     205,091
  BYD Seagull              174,912
  Tesla Model Y            171,491
and

  Tesla’s quarterly delivery boost meant its June results
  propelled the Model Y into third, from fifth in May
⇒ I doubt the Tesla model Y is the best seller in China.
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