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Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by DiscourseFan »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #189
windowshopping wrote: post #62

Two initial thoughts: 1. This author's writing is extremely, uncommonly good. Good enough to write a book and have it sell. "Competing with the past of the economy," "residual behaviour of a world that treated labour as sacred," "immigration without immigrants" -- there are many elegant turns of phrase here. This is a very skilled writer. 2. His resume is designed poorly. Have a look. I'm not surprised his job search…

In the US-centric perspective: Most forms of higher-education leave out fundamental job skills graduates need to be successful in the business world. Résumé writing, project management, time management, and team leadership should be covered. Moreover In terms of compulsory education like K-12, it should also include public service and life-work skills like customer service modeling behavior, personal financial manage…

The last thing we need is to teach people how to do things as they are already done, instead of giving them something that can be used to generate something new. And management skills can’t be taught anyway.

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Post by AznHisoka »

calepayson wrote: post #137
windowshopping wrote: post #62

Two initial thoughts: 1. This author's writing is extremely, uncommonly good. Good enough to write a book and have it sell. "Competing with the past of the economy," "residual behaviour of a world that treated labour as sacred," "immigration without immigrants" -- there are many elegant turns of phrase here. This is a very skilled writer. 2. His resume is designed poorly. Have a look. I'm not surprised his job search…

> 1. This author’s writing is extremely, uncommonly good. > 2. His resume is designed poorly… This is the world of TikTok and Instagram reels Imo this is exactly the problem. We’ve constructed a system where brilliance doesn’t shine through. The idea that someone as thoughtful as OP needs to tiktokify their resume to even have a chance at getting hired is ridiculous. I’m young, so I have no clue, but surely the job m…

Something something lemon market…

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by adrianstoll »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #212
lisbbb wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see the point of applying for "hundreds of jobs." I think use the time to network with real people and forget about Indeed or whatever because those jobs are mostly fake anyways.

The people you know aren’t always in a position to hire you.

If you expand your scope enough eventually you’ll find someone. For example, my first job was from someone who knew my dad.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by YZF »

urlahmed wrote: post #175

Hey all, OP here (author of the blog post, someone else submitted it ). I wrote this a few days ago mostly out of frustration and honestly did not expect it to go anywhere. It is pretty surreal to wake up and see it on HN with so much discussion. Thank you for reading and for all the comments, messages, and thoughtful critiques. I am currently looking for roles that sit at the intersection of ML, product, and researc…

Good luck with your search.

Free advice from the Internet- That role you're describing is pretty rare for new grads. You'd normally look for someone with experience and a track record before trusting them with open ended work or product management roles.

Start by being a "junior" builder in a team, then as you prove yourself you'll be given broader scope, this can take a while. There are teams building things that need strong builders. The smaller the company the more likely you'll be able to grow faster if you perform well.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by danielhanchen »

urlahmed wrote: post #175

Hey all, OP here (author of the blog post, someone else submitted it ). I wrote this a few days ago mostly out of frustration and honestly did not expect it to go anywhere. It is pretty surreal to wake up and see it on HN with so much discussion. Thank you for reading and for all the comments, messages, and thoughtful critiques. I am currently looking for roles that sit at the intersection of ML, product, and researc…

Love the blog :) If you or folks are looking for junior ML roles on training, RL & distributed training, doors always open!

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by kjkjadksj »

ipnon wrote: post #5

It is easier to start your own business than to get a job for a certain class of people in our industry. There is just not enough supply of jobs for people who “did everything right.” It’s a painful economic signal that US economy has run out of cushy Big Tech jobs and now needs an influx of innovative firms. This is difficult to explain to your relatives over Thanksgiving turkey but it is nonetheless the truth in my…

Just start a business? Now you need to find money and clients. That could be harder than the job search.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by xboxnolifes »

ineedasername wrote: post #130

> The industrial nations of the twentieth century were built around the idea that work was the organising principle of life Hopefully this is what changes. If, for example, AI reduces labor needs by 50%, we ought to gradually move to a 20 hour work week. Consumption patterns would change— the Covid years provide some very limited guidance on how such a dynamic would be shaped by changing the demand for different form…

Reducing hours worked does not change work being the organizing principle of life as long as that work is still how you earn your status and financial stability. 40 hours, 20 hours, 10 hours, 80 hours, it doesn't matter.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by jpollock »

yadaeno wrote: post #206
Buttons840 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have more than my fair share of complaints about Trump, but I did like the idea of charging $100,000 per year for every H1B visa. It would have ultimately helped American workers by giving them more negotiating power and higher salaries. So, naturally, Trump was talked out of doing it yearly and it looks like it's legally questionable whether it will stand-up at all. It appears things worked out in a way that benef…

A much better solution is something like the hire act.

I'm not sure how that act would differentiate between hiring someone in India vs outsourcing to India.

Also, how would it differentiate between outsourcing and SAAS?

A _better_ solution would be to remove the H1-B cap and continue to skim the best graduates worldwide. Same with removing the green card quotas. Make sure if someone gets an H1-B, they can transition to a green card and then to citizenship.

That's always been the US's super power.

Keep the density of innovation in the USA by inviting people in.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by wagwang »

At the heart of every fast destructive technology leap is the (econo-militaristic) competitive drive to not be left behind. Whatever sociological damage technology causes pales to the innate desire to avoid being subjugated. This is on the mind of every major leader right now.

Re: Work after work: Notes from an unemployed new grad watching the job market break

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Post by suriya-ganesh »

bwhiting2356 wrote: post #164

> “I am not the person in the VR rig or in the forklift chair. My world is the white collar side of this,” Society should not be engineered to make sure members of the professional class don’t have to enter the working class. To do so would be unfair to the working class, not to mention bad for competition and productivity. Demand is high for a variety of trades and healthcare jobs.

The goal of society was to encourage upward mobility and not the other way around.

Not that working class has anything wrong with it. Most of us are. Preferring to do white collar is perfectly alright. Considering the emotional toil rote work has on you

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