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Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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To them it's all an algorithm. Human moderation is completely infeasible at their massive scale.

And if the algorithm can't moderate then what? We should all suffer because doing it right isn't feasible?

Yes. You can choose to drive a broken car, not drive it, or fix with aftermarket parts and then drive it. The company that made it cannot deliver solution.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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At least 50% of the YouTube promoted videos I get are crypto currency scams where some paid actor walks you though deploying an eth contract that empties your wallet. I report every one and nothing changes :(

I get 50% AI generated tai chi promising strength gain, weight loss and enlightenment, the other 50% israel sponsored ads assuring me people in gaza are not starving at all and completely healthy

I pay for YouTube so all I get is paid creator promotions for VPNs and Squarespace unless it's someone being sent a free thing in exchange for a review

Normalize paying for things instead of selling your attention to the highest bidder.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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And? YouTube web absolutely has ads and if they have not built a model on your user you will absolutely get the chum ads like scams. I am not sure what you’re trying to tell us.

> I am not sure what you’re trying to tell us Gotcha. So you are ignorant of why people are commenting. The OP was talking about seeing 50% scam crypto ads. Our responses were to provide a comparison. Not to say that it doesn't happen, but that 50% scam crypto ads are not the norm for everyone. It's helpful to have that comparison when providing anecdotal information. No one is saying those ads don't happen, only tha…

Please don’t start drama where nothing exists. You were confused and I pointed out that 1) I believe we are talking about promoted, which is paid, videos not the recommendation engine. These of course are not purely ads but are paid for. And 2) that these chum style ads and promoted videos have a much higher prevalence with folks that block tracker where user profiles have not been built. It’s the chum ads of the video world.

I am simply asking what is the point of the response to my comment. Ads of all degree exist but these scams do exist in a pretty large % of the ads shown but perhaps much lower dollar value since they get shown to profiles without a tangible viewer model.

Next time, instead of using inflammatory language please just slow down and reread or have a more thoughtful discussion. Thanks.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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If everybody on social media was an actual paying customer of social platforms, like we pay mobile providers (I originally wrote “water providers”, which was in fact a somewhat unfit analogy), we could demand better service and switch away to a competitor who offers it. Unfortunately, we are robbed of our ability to pay with our wallets.

We could demand it either way. There's no iron law of the universe that says otherwise. The application of the law is supposed to be objective but the contents are just made up by those with the power to do it.

Not enough people would demand it for it to be actionable, and not having to pay is part of the reason. Why would we spend effort on actively demanding things when we are spending not a cent on this in the first place, and can instead passively-aggressively deploy adblockers while waiting for the next iteration of this arms race (which something makes me think might involve LLMs)?

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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The answer isn't ad blocking, the answer is paying directly and in full (so no need to subsidize cost with ads) for the service. I cannot wrap my head around how generally intelligent people are completely blind to this. I guess 20 years of ad-block-is-the-norm has left people totally confused about internet monetization. I've never encoutered a problem that has such a clear answer, and that so many intelligent peopl…

This would create a two tiered social commons however. Someone like me, homeless and on disability, what could I afford? Where would my word be heard? It could also create "free" platforms, funded by billionaires, to control the speech on the platform. The answer is a communal, government owned social media platform, that mimics the rules of the town square. in the US, this includes the same 1st amendment rights. Thi…

> Where would my word be heard?

You do realize that we are on a platform without ads where your word is heard, so it still is possible.

And before "social media" there were plenty of free forums (each with a certain main topic, but in which people were discussing occasionally more than that), so it was not that bad. And in fact that continues today (ex: this one), with more relevant discussions in my opinion than what I glimpse from my occasional social media incursions.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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I get 50% AI generated tai chi promising strength gain, weight loss and enlightenment, the other 50% israel sponsored ads assuring me people in gaza are not starving at all and completely healthy

> israel sponsored ads assuring me people in gaza are not starving at all and completely healthy I've never seen anything like this and I see the reverse quite a bit.

I only ever see "Pray for the people of Israel" ads which is basically thinly veiled "fuck Palestine" messaging

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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I get 50% AI generated tai chi promising strength gain, weight loss and enlightenment, the other 50% israel sponsored ads assuring me people in gaza are not starving at all and completely healthy

I pay for YouTube so all I get is paid creator promotions for VPNs and Squarespace unless it's someone being sent a free thing in exchange for a review Normalize paying for things instead of selling your attention to the highest bidder.

Buying YouTube premium is the single best online decision one can make.

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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There is an entire network of "get rick quick just by my pdf" intagramers, who peddle a pdf teaching you how to find a chinese product, make a website, and then drop ship that chinese product for 3x the cost to unsuspecting buyers. Probably 75% of products you see on instagram ads, you can go find on temu for their actual cost, usually at 80% discount.

> Probably 75% of products you see on instagram ads, you can go find on temu for their actual cost, usually at 80% discount. But when you do buy it on Temu, is it even a legitimate product?

There's lots of legit stuff on temu

Re: Meta projected 10% of 2024 revenue came from scams

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At least 50% of the YouTube promoted videos I get are crypto currency scams where some paid actor walks you though deploying an eth contract that empties your wallet. I report every one and nothing changes :(

Same. About half of Youtube ads that I get on my AppleTV (no adblock there sadly) are now AI generated scam products.

And sadly I have to compete with them trying to sell physical products on YouTube. Just no way
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