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Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by RajT88 »

cyptus wrote: post #224
mystcb wrote: post #33

Update 16:57 UTC: Azure Portal Access Issues Starting at approximately 16:00 UTC, we began experiencing Azure Front Door issues resulting in a loss of availability of some services. In addition. customers may experience issues accessing the Azure Portal. Customers can attempt to use programmatic methods (PowerShell, CLI, etc.) to access/utilize resources if they are unable to access the portal directly. We have faile…

AFD is down quite often regionally in Europe for our services. In 50%+ the cases they just don‘t report it anywhere, even if its for 2h+.

Spam those Azure tickets. If you have a CSAM, build them a nice powerpoint telling the story of all your AFD issues (that's what they are there for).

> In 50%+ the cases they just don‘t report it anywhere, even if its for 2h+.

I assume you mean publicly. Are you getting the service health alerts?

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by luhn »

Insanity wrote: post #141
dlcarrier wrote: post #95

Yesterday Amazon, today Microsoft. Are Google's cloud services going down tomorrow?

Maybe they are and no one realized yet.. :P That said, I don't hear about GCP outages all that often. I do think AWS might be leading in outages, but that's a gut feeling, I didn't look up numbers.

They had a pretty massive one earlier this year. https://status.cloud.google.com/incidents/ow5i3PPK96RduMcb1S...

This isn't GCP's fault, but the outage ended up taking down Cloudflare too, so in total impact I think that takes the cake.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by ElevenLathe »

ryandrake wrote: post #216
chasd00 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a Family Dollar by my house that is down at least 2 full days per month because of bad inet connectivity. I live close enough that with a small tower on my roof i can get line of sight to theirs. I've thought about offering them a backup link off my home inet if they give me 50% of sales whenever its in use. It would be a pretty good deal for them, better some sales when their inet is down vs none.

You'd think any SeriousBusiness would have a backup way to take customers' money. This is the one thing you always want to be able to do: accept payment. If they made it so they can't do that, they deserve the hit to their revenue. People should just walk out of the store with the goods if they're not being charged. Why doesn't someone in the store at least have one of those manual kachunk-kachunk carbon copy card re…

The kachunk-kachunk credit card machines need raised digits on the cards, and I don't think most banks have been issuing those for years at this point. Mine have been smooth for at least 10 years.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by nzach »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #169

The Internet is supposed to be decentralized. The big three seem to have all the power now (Amazon, Microsoft, and Google) plus Cloudflare/Oracle. How did we get here? Is it because of scale? Going to market in minutes by using someone else's computers instead of building out your own, like co-location or dedicated servers, like back in the day.

> How did we get here?

I think the response lies in the surrounding ecosystem.

If you have a company it's easier to scale your team if you use AWS (or any other established ecosystem). It's way easier to hire 10 engineers that are competent with AWS tools than it is to hire 10 engineers that are competent with the IBM tools.

And from the individuals perspective it also make sense to bet on larger platforms. If you want to increase your odds of getting a new job, learning the AWS tools gives you a better ROI than learning the IBM tools.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by SecretDreams »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #169

The Internet is supposed to be decentralized. The big three seem to have all the power now (Amazon, Microsoft, and Google) plus Cloudflare/Oracle. How did we get here? Is it because of scale? Going to market in minutes by using someone else's computers instead of building out your own, like co-location or dedicated servers, like back in the day.

> How did we get here?

Stonks

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by dboreham »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #170

Some exec at Microsoft told the Azure guys to ape everything Amazon does and they took it literally.

This is funny but also possibly true because: business/MBA types see these outages as a way to prove how critical some services are, leading to investors deciding to load up on the vendor's stock.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by consp »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #209

They admit in their update blurb azure front door is having issues but still report azure front door as having no issues on their status page. And it's very clear from these updates that they're more focused on the portal than the product, their updates haven't even mentioned fixing it yet, just moving off of it, as if it's some third party service that's down.

> as having no issues on their status page

Unsubstantiated idea: So the support contract likely says there is a window between each reporting step and the status page is the last one and the one in the legal documents giving them several more hours before the clauses trigger.

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