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Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Post by zharknado »

abakker wrote: post #160
seemaze wrote: post #43

I frequently use my AirPods Pro when working in my shop. Previously the APP2 did a great job of reducing loud tool noise and I could mostly still listen to music or podcasts at reasonable levels. With the APP3, they are largely the same except with the louder tools (circular saw, cordless grinder) they produce a horrific feedback instead of canceling the noise. So much so that I switched back to my APP2 (which do not…

I'll say, I recommend my Honeywell sync earmuffs for the workshop. They block more noise, have a physical volume knob and accessible buttons, and best of all, the microphone is also noise cancelling directly, meaning you can usually have a conversation with someone while using a power tool or mowing the lawn without much issue. APP2 or 3 for me has never been able to displace these.

Fwiw sometimes I wear my APP2 inside my cheap passive 3M earmuffs haha. For an hour or two of use it’s been comfortable enough that I can listen and also attenuate loud tool noise e.g. a weed trimmer.

Of course you don’t get any speech boost to enable conversation with this setup. But no one else around me has passthrough either so I turn off my tools to talk the old fashioned way. :)

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Post by _s »

userbinator wrote: post #210
spot5010 wrote: post #27

A wild guess as to what is happening. I haven’t actually tested this hypothesis so I could be completely wrong. In feedback systems, the gain is a function of frequency, and typically decreases when going from low frequency to high frequency. This is often accompanied by a phase delay. So if the overall gain of the system is high enough, there will be some high frequency where the gain is 1, and the phase is 180 degr…

An even wilder guess: the speed of sound varies with air density. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound#Altitude_variat... If they were calibrated assuming a certain distance from the microphone that "hears" what the wearer's ear is hearing and the ear itself, then it's possible a change in air density could position the area of highest constructive interference at the eardrum instead of the intended destructi…

The pressure difference shouldn’t be significant enough in modern jets? Cabin altitude is around 6000-8000’ - we would hear complaints from a few major cities. Humidity is much lower in aircraft though.

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Post by gkanai »

I used to be first to try out new Apple products. Now I wait for OS upgrades and will let others try new Apple products or major software updates. Too many times Cupertino has let users down with poorly tested software. This problem with the Airpods- it should have been caught if this many people are experiencing the same problem.

Apple doesn't deserve the share price it enjoys.

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Post by userbinator »

hnlmorg wrote: post #98
0xffff2 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm reasonably certain that I am about as old if not slightly older than the invention of in-ear headphones. I'm also reasonably certain that I have always used "headphones" to refer to any small portable speaker designed to inject sound directly into the ears. I'm absolutely certain I have never used the term "earphones", although "ear buds" was/is a common synonym for in-ear headphones.

I’m probably around 2 decades older than the invention of earphones and people definitely did used to call them that here in the UK.

You are... 150 years old?

https://patents.google.com/patent/US454138A/en

This nipple is adapted for insertion into the ear, and is ordinarily covered with a rubber cover to lessen the friction against the orifice of the ear.

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Post by jojobas »

conductr wrote: post #221

I’ve never understood the hype around AirPods noise cancellation. It’s been noticeably worse than Bose from the beginning and I just keep going back to Bose. I don’t know how others may rank, but it’s just that I was using Bose noise cancellation headphones since before Apple got into headphones and as much as I like the form factor of AirPods every time I use them on a flight or something I feel like I’m punishing m…

Can you imagine a post on HN where someone says "when Bose announced QuiteComfort Ultra Earbuds 2nd Gen I was so excited!".

Apple has a serious reality distortion field about it. For normal products this would have been a return. See recent "Apple allows icon opacity adjustment".

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Post by djtango »

larusso wrote: post #226
djtango wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personal preference ofc but I'll never understand how people run with in-ear buds...

What you mean? How people are manage to run with noise cancelation? Or how it works that they don’t loose them? I run with my AirPods Pro 2 and have no issues. I have some other in-ear buds where fit is also no issue but thumping sounds while running make them unusable.

Years ago I was a convert to open ear bone conduction by Shokz (then Aftershokz) but the band was a little annoying and now I use the Huawei Freeclips which I am very happy with. Bose also have an open ear product.

My priority with exercise is peripheral awareness so I would never compromise that with in-ears anymore

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Post by larusso »

djtango wrote: post #236
larusso wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you mean? How people are manage to run with noise cancelation? Or how it works that they don’t loose them? I run with my AirPods Pro 2 and have no issues. I have some other in-ear buds where fit is also no issue but thumping sounds while running make them unusable.

Years ago I was a convert to open ear bone conduction by Shokz (then Aftershokz) but the band was a little annoying and now I use the Huawei Freeclips which I am very happy with. Bose also have an open ear product. My priority with exercise is peripheral awareness so I would never compromise that with in-ears anymore

I understand. I think it very much depends on the environment. I usually run in parks not on the street. I also trust my eyes more than my ears when doing runs on more trafficked routes. The Apple AirPods have a great transparent mode. I tried bone conducting headphone and it wasn’t for me. I know that the new models are kind of hybrids now. But I also love the fact that I can listen to myself. I had tons of headphones over the years. And I think for me the AirPods Pro 2 are just the most versatile.

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Post by velocity3230 »

lvl155 wrote: post #172
cortesoft wrote: post #44

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Why is moving to a different platform literally not an option? 1TB of data is tiny. You don't even need a NAS, 1TB is a trivial amount of data. If you don't want to self host (which has actually become quite simple with immich), you could switch providers (even if you want to avoid google).

Name me one service outside of Google and Apple that’s seamlessly tied to your devices. Once you buy into the system you’re basically stuck. Apple is quickly becoming Oracle.

Samsung?

Disclaimer: not touched a Samsung device in over a decade

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Post by blitzar »

SoftTalker wrote: post #192
el_benhameen wrote: post #62

I have this happen outside of flights. Cupping your finger over the ANC mic is enough to trigger it. The new tips (that’s my guess, at least) also transmit vibrations into your ears much more than the old tips or third party memory foam tips. This results in a popping noise when walking or moving around, and a horrible thumping sound when running with them in. I think the latter is partially caused by the “reduce lou…

You’re holding them wrong.

You’re poking your ear wrong.
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