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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by j2kun » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:56 PM UTC

TheBlight wrote: post #165

WheatMillington wrote: post #158

It's incredible that American corruption can happen out in the open like this. And this isn't a uniquely Trump phenomena. Political pardons are an amazing thing, and they have been used by presidents for a long time now with extremely little scrutiny and no possibility for repercussions. The executive being able to overrule the judiciary is an absolutely jaw-dropping American institution. So much for checks and balan…

There's an argument the prosecution was political. See: https://x.com/balajis/status/1981423831572238856

balajis is personally invested in propping up the ecosystem.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by coliveira » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:56 PM UTC

Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

Americans cannot accept they have a corrupt government lead by a corrupt politician who is now corrupting the justice system. They prefer to continue propagating the myth of a "healthy democracy" and "open market".

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by kbd » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:56 PM UTC

The pardon power has been so abused these past few administrations that it's clear there should be constitutional changes in the pardon power, either congressional review, or strip it altogether.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by xpe » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:57 PM UTC

Mars008 wrote: post #171

WheatMillington wrote: post #158

It's incredible that American corruption can happen out in the open like this. And this isn't a uniquely Trump phenomena. Political pardons are an amazing thing, and they have been used by presidents for a long time now with extremely little scrutiny and no possibility for repercussions. The executive being able to overrule the judiciary is an absolutely jaw-dropping American institution. So much for checks and balan…

> And this isn't a uniquely Trump phenomena Reminds of Biden pardoning his relatives without even saying for what. Just blanked pardon for everything. No democrat dropped his jaw.

> Reminds of Biden pardoning his relatives without even saying for what. Just blanked pardon for everything. No democrat dropped his jaw.

Everyone I talked to (more than 10, including myself) that I knew who voted for Biden was pissed, disappointed, even angry at his pardoning of Hunter.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by TheBlight » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:57 PM UTC

bmandale wrote: post #223

TheBlight wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Is autopen a particular sore point in the US for some reason?

There's a potential implication that the president wasn't the one making the decisions and they were political favors doled out by unnamed and unaccountable staff. If the president felt strongly about that perception he could've signed them himself. But he seemingly didn't.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by mcmcmc » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:57 PM UTC

froggertoaster wrote: post #230

Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

Hi, Trump voter here. I'm NOT fine with this.

If you’re not fine with criminals who get away with fraud, why vote for a well known fraudster? He’s been conning people since the 80s

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by jmull » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:58 PM UTC

tripplyons wrote: post #172

moralestapia wrote: post #161

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No chance SBF ever goes out (until he's done with his sentence). Two huge factors against him: * Most people don't even know who CZ is, so this is meh-tier. People know SBF and find him repulsive, literally. Whoever puts SBF out of jail will face a massive PR backslash, he's not important enough to be worth that. * SBF stole from the rich, the only real crime in the US. Very few times you see someone who is equally h…

I would add that SBF was at one point the 2nd largest donor to Democrats.

SBF/FTX was also a massive donor (using customer money) to Republicans. They routed that money through Ryan Salame, I guess to avoid appearing to be as unprincipled as they actually were.

The common theme to the donations ("payoff" or "bribe" might be more accurate), whether to D or R was to weaken any push for crypto regulations.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by yanslookup » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:58 PM UTC

j2kun wrote: post #228

Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

They wouldn't be fine with it if they understood it. Instead they are not paying attention and only consuming propaganda media (Fox News) that refuses to report on Trump negatively in any way.

Not sure we can blame fox news, it has like 5MM peak daily viewership...

FB, Twitter, Tiktok on the other hand...

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by dboreham » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:58 PM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #227

bityard wrote: post #207

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I mean, we shut down the government and so now we're just waiting (a year) for the midterms. What else do you expect people to do? Among other things, people are constantly challenging Trump in court and have reversed many of his policies. For example, my passport needed to be renewed this year and he signed an executive order saying I couldn't get an accurate one. The ACLU sued him and now I have an accurate passpor…

> we shut down the government

The government clearly isn't shut down. I'm still paying taxes through the eftps web site. Only the parts that the executive wants shut down are actually shut down. Perhaps "degraded" is a better word.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by tripplyons » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 8:58 PM UTC

bmandale wrote: post #223

TheBlight wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Is autopen a particular sore point in the US for some reason?

I think the conspiracy is that someone pardoned people without Joe Biden's approval right before Trump was inaugurated.