Steve Jobs and Cray-1 to be featured on 2026 American Innovations $1 coin

Post by SoftTalker » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 3:36 PM UTC

engeljohnb wrote: post #120

dbish wrote: post #93

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Woz is awesome and as an engineer I understand the urge to say he’s the main one who should be honored but we have to be realistic. Jobs ushered in 2 eras, only 1 with Woz. The personal computer and the computer in everyone’s pocket. That’s not touching any of the other areas like helping to drive Pixar. Woz did not have a second act, which is perfectly fine and I deeply respect him but he doesn’t have quite the same…

Woz is a genius who invented the personal computer as we know it. Jobs was a celebrity who was good at branding himself as a genius. I don't consider a clever UI idea like a touch screen to be a work of brilliance, especially since he did zero engineering work, both for early and later Apple devices. Touch screen handheld devices would've come around with or without him, just maybe a few years later. It should've bee…

Post by butlike » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 3:48 PM UTC

esafak wrote: post #178

butlike wrote: post #167

Never heard of that Norman Borlaug guy. Sounds like a standup guy from his wikipedia.

Borlaug. Bill Gates talks about him a lot: https://www.gatesnotes.com/the-man-who-fed-the-world Borland was the software company. Maybe I missed the joke?

Post by walkabout » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 3:49 PM UTC

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shevy-java wrote: post #159

Shall we forget that Steve Jobs conspired with other companies to pay developers less? This is well-documented in courts (and also on many other websites, by the way): https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/24/apple-goo... See: "[...] Steve Jobs orchestrated an elaborate scheme to prevent poaching and drive down wages."

developers deserve less. they were paid way too much especially back then

Post by marajason629 » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 3:50 PM UTC

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 3:56 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #181

engeljohnb wrote: post #120

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Woz is a genius who invented the personal computer as we know it. Jobs was a celebrity who was good at branding himself as a genius. I don't consider a clever UI idea like a touch screen to be a work of brilliance, especially since he did zero engineering work, both for early and later Apple devices. Touch screen handheld devices would've come around with or without him, just maybe a few years later. It should've bee…

> Woz is a genius who invented the personal computer as we know it. History being written by the victors here, I believe. He designed some clever things for example bit-banging the floppy interface which allowed the Apple 2 to have floppies at a lower price point than competitors. Another innovation of the Apple 2 at the time was its use of a switched-mode PSU. It was almost certainly the first personal computer to h…