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Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by mrkeen »

bfrog wrote: post #204

The big win would be a linux capable device. I don't have any interest in mac os x but the apple m parts always seem amazing. In theory this would be where qualcomm would come in and provide something but in practice they seem to be stuck in qualcomm land where only lawyers matter and actual users and developers can get stuffed.

I have a pretty good time on Asahi Fedora (macbook air M1). It supposedly also supports M2 but no higher.

And it's a PITA to install (needs to be started within macosx, using scripts, with the partitions already in a good state)

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by hexbin010 »

mumber_typhoon wrote: post #44

The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

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Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by ge96 »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #11

And here I am, selling my Macbook M4 Pro to buy a Macbook Air and a dedicated gaming machine. I've tried gaming on the Macbook with Heroic, GPTK, Whiskey, RPCS3 emu and some native. When a game runs, the performance is stunning for a Laptop - but there is always glitches, bugs and annoyances that take out the joy. Needles to mention lack of support from any sort of online multiplayer, due to the lack of anticheat sup…

I'm gonna be looking for a 4080 in SFF form factor since my current gaming rig can't get upgraded to win 11. Also I wouldn't mind a smaller desktop.

edit: for now I'll get that win 10 ESU

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by iyn »

mpeg wrote: post #22
nik736 wrote: post #2

This is only the base model, no upgrades yet for the Pro/Max version. The memory bandwidth is 153GB/s which is not enough to run viable open source LLM models properly.

The memory capacity to me is an even bigger problem, at 32GB max.

Yeah, that's my main bottleneck too. Constantly at 90%+ RAM utilization with my 64GiB (VMs, IDEs etc.). Hoping to go with at least 128GiB (or more) once M5 Max is released.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

ksec wrote: post #103
mumber_typhoon wrote: post #44

The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

The Broadcom WiFi support 320Mhz while N1 is stuck with 160Mhz. There were report of N1 not supporting 4096 QAM as well but I didn't check.

I don’t think 4096 QAM is realistic anyway, except if your router is 10 cm away from your laptop.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by fersarr »

kokada wrote: post #137
mumber_typhoon wrote: post #44

The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

> Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same tasks ive been last couple of years. I have a work provided M2 Pro with 32GB of RAM. After the Tahoe upgrade it feels like one of the sluggish PCs at the house. It is the only one that I can see the mouse teleporting sometimes when I move it fast. This is after disabling transparency in Accessibility settings mind you, it was even worse before.

same here

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by Gethsemane »

mrkeen wrote: post #231
bfrog wrote: post #204

The big win would be a linux capable device. I don't have any interest in mac os x but the apple m parts always seem amazing. In theory this would be where qualcomm would come in and provide something but in practice they seem to be stuck in qualcomm land where only lawyers matter and actual users and developers can get stuffed.

I have a pretty good time on Asahi Fedora (macbook air M1). It supposedly also supports M2 but no higher. And it's a PITA to install (needs to be started within macosx, using scripts, with the partitions already in a good state)

If I was less lazy I could probably find this answer online, but how do you find the battery life these days? I'd love to make the switch, but that's the only thing holding me back...

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by hannesfur »

pixelpoet wrote: post #192
gzer0 wrote: post #116

M5 Chip currently only avaialble with up to 32 GB of RAM on the 14 inch Macbook pro variant, just FYI. [1] https://www.apple.com/us-edu/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/14-inc...

That's laughable in 2025, and together with the wimpy 153 GB/s memory bandwidth (come on, Strix Halo is 256GB/s at a fraction of the price!) they really don't have a leg to stand on calling this AI-anything!

As pointed out in other places as well a better comparison will be the upcoming Pro & Max variants. Also, as far as I know, Strix Halo mainly uses the GPU for inference not the little AI accelerator AMD has put on there. That one is just to limited.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by reacharavindh »

One that’s be a nice quality of life improvement in MacBook(Air/Pro) is built-in 5G connectivity. I’d spring for that convenience not needing to connect to a hotspot draining precious battery on my phone. I thought we were closer given Apple started making their own modems, but it is still a miss.
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