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Bots are getting good at mimicking engagement

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Re: Bots are getting good at mimicking engagement

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I have noticed bots posting a various forums, not sure what the angle is as they aren’t usually trying to sell anything, just posting AI slop. I am going too assume it’s to build up some sort of legitimate looking profile for future use, it’s a scourge ruining other wise valuable sources of information.

Here is recent example:

https://diysolarforum.com/threads/ai-bots-are-here-on-diy-so...

Re: Bots are getting good at mimicking engagement

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post #216

It’s interesting that this matches _exactly_ the ChatGPT writing style. There’s clearly some human data and work behind, but the entire article has the usual “it’s not just X, it’s …”, bold emphasis on specific words, bullet points, and probably more that I’m just subconsciously picking up. Nothing wrong with using ChatGPT for help of course, I just found it interesting and kind of ironic given the contents of the ar…

The picture looks AI-generated, too, or at least irrelevant clip art.

Re: Bots are getting good at mimicking engagement

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So if I am running Facebook Ads and I get a load of fraudulent traffic, who is instructing these bots to make the fake clicks and why? Facebook? They have the motivation. They are getting paid per click. But I don't think they would dare. They would get sued into oblivion if they got caught. A competitor? They could be trying to burn up my marketing budget. But it seems it would require a bit more technical sophistic…

Look into methbot.

Typically, it's people who game the algorithm (for ad dollars), and use these bots to click on other things (including ads) to make it more difficult for FB / Google / etc to detect all the traffic going to their pages and content is their own fake clicks, trying to train the algorithm to send other people to their stuff.

Re: Bots are getting good at mimicking engagement

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post #216

It’s interesting that this matches _exactly_ the ChatGPT writing style. There’s clearly some human data and work behind, but the entire article has the usual “it’s not just X, it’s …”, bold emphasis on specific words, bullet points, and probably more that I’m just subconsciously picking up. Nothing wrong with using ChatGPT for help of course, I just found it interesting and kind of ironic given the contents of the ar…

Really ironic given the content of this post. Glad that humans are already getting pretty good at clocking this sort of BS quickly, makes it easy to ignore. Maybe a new idiom for our time. Startups want to fail quickly, I want to detect AI generated content quickly so I can move on.

Re: Bots are getting good at mimicking engagement

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post #216

It’s interesting that this matches _exactly_ the ChatGPT writing style. There’s clearly some human data and work behind, but the entire article has the usual “it’s not just X, it’s …”, bold emphasis on specific words, bullet points, and probably more that I’m just subconsciously picking up. Nothing wrong with using ChatGPT for help of course, I just found it interesting and kind of ironic given the contents of the ar…

Lost me at "It all started with a simple, devastating problem." Tried to keep going, but "a strange, unsettling feeling crept in," yes indeed. Also please note OP is marketting copy for an analytics product that presumably says it will filter out bot traffic better?

“Her traitor tears betraying her”

Re: Bots are getting good at mimicking engagement

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post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But what I'm struggling to understand is where is the money coming from to run those bots? I agree, I have a hard time understanding the motivation for this behavior. It's obviously happening, I just don't know how someone benefits from a bot pretending to browse the internet.

Isn't the idea that you run google ads on your site, and then have your botnet click the ads on your site, and you get paid for the traffic?

Aha! that makes much more sense. Yeah having something autobot your click throughs seems like a motivation to run bots.

I was thinking about ad traffic from one of the meta/twitter/tiktok products and couldn't think what the motivation would be

Re: Bots are getting good at mimicking engagement

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Hi HN. I run a marketing agency and fell down this rabbit hole after a client's analytics made no sense (50k visitors, 47 sales). I ended up building a simple script to track user behavior and analyzed 200+ small e-commerce sites. The average was 73% bot traffic that standard analytics counts as real. The bots are getting creepily good at mimicking engagement. I wrote up my findings, including some of the bizarre pat…

I find it really interesting when you describe “good bot” traffic. > During my investigation, a source from the e-commerce data industry provided a crucial piece of the puzzle. He explained that his former company was responsible for scraping 70 million retailer web pages every single day. This is a legitimate and massive source of automated traffic. > Why do they do this? For vital business intelligence. Major retai…

> brands pay for data scraping services to monitor their own products.

This case seems "good" by most perspectives.

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