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Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits

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Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits

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Sure, but who do they sell stuff to if no one has a job? We’re on the brink of some _very_ unexplored branches of human behavior.

That's the key. The poor are useful to business so long as they are a source of money and power. What happens if the time comes that the poor have nothing the rich want?

Historically in this case eventually the poor kill the rich

Probably not this time though

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If you can make many replicators, money stops making much sense. You probably end up with energy (if these devices take a lot of energy to operate) as the new currency. My gut says that _somehow_ the middle class will get screwed as always, but I struggle to articulate the way that abundant cheap goods lead to that outcome. Maybe because the very few that control the replicators will be able to cut people they don’t…

> If you can make many replicators, money stops making much sense. You probably end up with energy (if these devices take a lot of energy to operate) as the new currency. If you can make many replicators, you certainly won't be providing them to anyone else. You'd be using them to ensure that money starts funneling into your revenue stream, and use that as a cash cow to pursue other projects.

That’s only a temporary possibility, once the tech gets out everyone will have replicators.

Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits

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That's the key. The poor are useful to business so long as they are a source of money and power. What happens if the time comes that the poor have nothing the rich want?

Historically in this case eventually the poor kill the rich Probably not this time though

If they killed the poor, then how can they enjoy their power over people?

Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits

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Undeniably better off in every single way. Minimum is that the price of long distance phone calls is now zero, let alone video calls. Being able to speak to family and see them nonstop is incredible.

Why are people much less happy then? https://news.gallup.com/poll/505745/depression-rates-reach-n...

I wonder what event started in 2020 that might have caused major social and economic disruption, and could have had that effect. Maybe something that drastically limited peoples social mobility and lead to mass isolation.

Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits

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It will benefit all people but it will disproportionally benefit more rich people.

> It will benefit all people but it will disproportionally benefit more rich people. Yes: you'll be homeless and living under a bridge, but you'll have an LLM therapist on your phone to console you. That's a benefit!

Doubtful. More likely that there will be robocops to stop you from loitering in the scenic places.

Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits

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HN said the same thing about Uber forever.

Uber didn't invent anything, they drove taxis out of business then jacked up the prices, squeezed the workers, and now everybody is riding around in regular people's crappy cars for more than a cab cost. And now I need a phone and to maintain my relationship with these two crappy companies rather than to wave at the street (which is what I used to do to get a ride.) That was literally what everybody said would happen…

Uber is way cheaper and better than any cab ever was.

Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits

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How is AI hard to understand when you enter a cafe and everyone is chatting with their LLM?

Where do you see that?

In some Hollywood reality, probably.

(Like those people that casually assume that everyone has a therapist or a lawyer.)

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How is AI hard to understand when you enter a cafe and everyone is chatting with their LLM?

People have no idea how much concern there was around whether FB would ever be able to monetize social media. That company went public at $15, and nearly closed below that on IPO day. AI is more useful than social media. This is not financial advice, but I lean more toward not a bubble .

> AI is more useful than social media.

Communication is a fundamental human need.

Generating slop isn't.

Re: Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits

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Why are people much less happy then? https://news.gallup.com/poll/505745/depression-rates-reach-n...

I wonder what event started in 2020 that might have caused major social and economic disruption, and could have had that effect. Maybe something that drastically limited peoples social mobility and lead to mass isolation.

The trend goes back way further than 2020
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