Lengthy article but not even one image of the Moonlander. OP, why do you make me Google it?
Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander
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#232I tried the Ergodox (not the Moonlander) for ages, couldn't get into their thumb cluster.
I have been a die hard fan of Keyboardio and their Model 01/100 since their first kickstarter.
Similar benefits, better quality, and personally an improved layout. The fun-key being on my palm is incredible.
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#233My intuition is that being a split keyboard provides a good part of the benefit, informed by my experience with a no-frills split keyboard.
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#234I bought the Moonlander a year ago, and I completely regret it for the reason you mention: the horrible palm rest. It's wobbly, and when I contacted them, they told me that in the "ideal setup", my wrists aren't support to rest on them. Palm rests where you can't rest your palms. I'm really frustrated, because I love everything else from this keyboard. But those wobbles really do make it unusable.
What they probably meant was that your wrists shouldn't be supported WHILE typing. You should only rest them while they're actually resting. Usually wrist trouble signals that you should be sitting higher/move the desk lower.
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#235My biggest issues with these type keyboards are the non-standard layouts. Kinesis gives you a standard layout. These other ones do not. I will NOT always be using the same keyboard everywhere I go, and muscle memory is something I have and want to benefit from. I see no benefit to me in learning a unique, one-off, non-standard layout that is effectively vendor lockin. Even ZSA can't keep a consistent layout.
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#236I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…
Could not agree more, it's frustrating that there seems to be such a focus on the 'mechanical' aspect of these keyboards instead of the ergonomic and programmable which are the real stars.
I would love just a low profile programmable keyboard with 5 individual keys instead of the long space bar. That would tick all my boxes.
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#237I have a Kinesis Freestyle Pro that I sort of like. Although, I think tenting and split is honestly 99% of the value here, I don’t really get the whole mechanical keyboard click clacky thing. I actually prefer the key pressing experience of something like an Apple Magic Keyboard, nice and crisp and immediate. But, tenting is not optional as far as I’m concerned, it is mandatory. Eventually the little rubbery feet fel…
This is exactly how I feel; I'd love a switch that performs like the modern apple keyboards. Anytime I've dipped my toe into mechanical keyboard waters I've lost speed and accuracy, even after weeks of practice. The extra key travel felt like it gave me more fatigue, even with low profile switches. Whenever I've researched alternatives I get the sense I'm in the minority, though, and most mechanical keyboard users are after a very different feel. It's a huge shame, because I'd love to move to something with a split for better shoulder/arm positioning.
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#238Lengthy article but not even one image of the Moonlander. OP, why do you make me Google it?
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#239I've had a Moonlander and a few other ergo mechanical keyboards. I never liked them and they didn't seem to help my forearm pain as much as I hoped.
After a lot of time and well over $1,000, the 2 things that solved it for me were: (1) get a soft, membrane-style wireless keyboard and put it in my lap when I type. I've found the Logitech MX Keys to be the most comfortable. (2) Use compression arm bands when typing. They're cheap.
All-in, you're looking at about $150 for a high-comfort solution. YMMV.
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#240My biggest issues with these type keyboards are the non-standard layouts. Kinesis gives you a standard layout. These other ones do not. I will NOT always be using the same keyboard everywhere I go, and muscle memory is something I have and want to benefit from. I see no benefit to me in learning a unique, one-off, non-standard layout that is effectively vendor lockin. Even ZSA can't keep a consistent layout.
I've been using a Keychron split that has almost exactly the same layout as my MacBook. It's not as flash as the Moonlander or others, it doesn't have tenting or an ortholinear layout, but just by being split it sorted my shoulder/centre-back pain out, and I can switch between that and an Apple keyboard no problem.